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It's been 20 years now since 2003 and the last ever split national championship

Posted on 9/28/23 at 9:34 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/28/23 at 9:34 am
With the advent of the College Football Playoff in 2014, we will likely never see another split national championship again. Prior to the introduction of the CFP they were actually quite common, however. Since the Coaches Poll was created in 1950, there have been a number of splits between the two major selectors:

1954
AP: Ohio State
Coaches: UCLA

1957
AP: Auburn
Coaches: Ohio State

1965
AP: Alabama
Coaches: Michigan State

1970
AP: Nebraska
Coaches: Texas

1973
AP: Notre Dame
Coaches: Alabama

1974
AP: Oklahoma
Coaches: USC

1978
AP: Alabama
Coaches: USC

1990
AP: Colorado
Coaches: Georgia Tech

1991
AP: Miami
Coaches: Washington

1997
AP: Michigan
Coaches: Nebraska

2003
AP: USC
Coaches: LSU

When Week 15 of the 2003 college football season came to an end, USC was ranked #1 in both the AP and the Coaches Poll while LSU was #2 and Oklahoma was #3. However, when the final BCS standings were released during the Bowl Selection Show, USC was #3 in the computer rankings while Oklahoma and LSU finished #1 and #2 respectively. Using the rankings from the two major wire service polls, #2 LSU and #3 Oklahoma would face each other in the Sugar Bowl while #1 USC would face off against #4 Michigan in the Rose Bowl.

USC defeated Michigan 28-14 in the Rose Bowl and remained #1 in the AP while #2 LSU knocked off #3 Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl by the score of 21-14. Since the Sugar Bowl was the BCS National Championship Game, and since the AFCA Coaches Trophy (aka the "crystal football") was awarded to the winner of said game, the voters in the Coaches Poll were contractually obligated to vote the winner of Oklahoma-LSU #1 in the final Coaches Poll. Hence the split. Despite being contractually obligated to give their #1 vote to LSU, some coaches instead opted to give their first place vote to USC in protest to the controversial way Oklahoma was allowed into the BCS title game.

Nevertheless, both USC and LSU were declared national champions of the 2003 college football season. Both teams were invited to the White House where they were honored by then-President George W. Bush in a ceremony. During the festivities, Bush jokingly suggested that both teams settle the national championship discussion once and for all by playing an impromptu game on the South Lawn of the White House.

In the years to come, the youth will look back on the era prior to the College Football Playoff and think it silly that there ever were split national champions in major college football. Yet there were and the last one happened 20 years ago this season.

Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/28/23 at 9:36 am to
USC would’ve waxed arse, the biggest travesty is that OU was even let into the Sugar Bowl after that 35-7 boat racing K State gave them
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17620 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 9:38 am to


vs



“If there was one thing professionally that I would do over again, it would've been not to leave LSU."

-Nick Saban
Posted by CISO
ATX
Member since Nov 2021
1082 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 9:38 am to
Everyone agreed to the BCS system before the season started, therefor USC can suck it.

LSU clear champion.

Much clearer than most Alabama "championships."
This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 9:45 am
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
46860 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 9:39 am to
quote:

USC would’ve waxed arse, the biggest travesty is that OU was even let into the Sugar Bowl after that 35-7 boat racing K State gave them


Those Carroll teams were money in big games, especially big road games. The Sugar Bowl would have basically been a road game for them.
Posted by Pimphand
Member since Sep 2021
2698 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 9:40 am to
Yeah EMAW fricked Jason White's shoulder up and they were dog shyte after that.

At least that was the year OU gave us 77-0 and Chimpanzione

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61026 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 9:42 am to
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It's been 20 years now since 2003 and the last ever split national championship


The NCAA recognizes UCF as one of the national champions of 2017.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68288 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 9:46 am to
quote:

The NCAA recognizes UCF as one of the national champions of 2017.



Too bad the NCAA hasn't had a say in the inner machinations of major college football in decades. They exist solely to delve out punishment to institutions that blatantly break the rules.

ETA - They actually don't recognize UCF's claim. However, they do recognize USC's 2003 claim.

NCAA
This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 9:48 am
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
9601 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 9:47 am to
quote:

The NCAA recognizes UCF as one of the national champions of 2017.



"Split" refers to the Coaches' and AP polls, the only two major selectors since time immemorial. There are still minor polls out there that may select a different champion than the official system produces, it's just that, since the inception of the BCS and the CFP after it, UCF is the only school lame enough to actually claim a title based on them.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61026 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 9:49 am to
quote:

ETA - They actually don't recognize UCF's claim. However, they do recognize USC's 2003 claim.

NCAA


NCAA.com isn't the official NCAA website.

Read the fine print at the bottom of the site.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68288 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:02 am to
quote:

NCAA.com isn't the official NCAA website.



You're right. However, NCAA.org no longer tracks champions of the Football Bowl Subdivision as they even say on their website:

quote:

In football, schools in the Football Bowl Subdivision can compete in bowl games. This includes the College Football Playoff, which is managed by the 10 FBS conferences and Notre Dame, outside the NCAA governance structure.


They still maintain statistical records but they no longer list national champions for each season at the Division I-A/FBS level.

But NCAA.org does let us know we can find out more about those records on NCAA.com
This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 10:04 am
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
86567 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:03 am to
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"Split" refers to the Coaches' and AP polls, the only two major selectors since time immemorial.


This ceased to be the case in 1998 when all the conferences agreed, even the PAC-10, to host a championship game.

Last split title was 1997.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
86567 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:05 am to
Every starter on that LSU defense played in the NFL, as did 4/5 on the OL, including Andrew Whitworth who only just retired last year.

Most of USC’s heavy hitters were underclassmen, their 03 team feasted on a very weak schedule, which is why they were left out. USC was heavily reliant on play action that year, which played right into LSU’s strengths.

LSU would win 7/10 against USC that year. 04/05 USC is a different discussion.
This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 10:07 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68288 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:05 am to
quote:

Last split title was 1997.



Not according to the AP.
Posted by LSUTitan99
Member since Jun 2023
1479 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:06 am to
It wasn’t split. LSU won the national championship GAME
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68288 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:07 am to
quote:

LSU won the national championship GAME



They won a game that was set up by computers. USC was #1 in both major human polls but were passed over by #3 Oklahoma.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
86567 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:07 am to
quote:

Not according to the AP.


What the AP thought ceased mattering by that point. It’s as legit as Arkansas’s 1964 title claim, meaning not at all.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
86567 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:08 am to
quote:

They won a game that was set up by computers. USC was #1 in both major human polls but were passed over by #3 Oklahoma.


Which is irrelevant
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61026 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:08 am to
quote:

They still maintain statistical records but they no longer list national champions for each season at the Division I-A/FBS level.

But NCAA.org does let us know we can find out more about those records on NCAA.com


What does that have to do with the NCAA recognizing UCF as a national champion in 2017?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
86567 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:09 am to
The NCAA doesn’t sanction a national champion in division I-A football. Never has. What their website says is meaningless.
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