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re: Burton plays no suspension
Posted on 10/24/22 at 8:40 am to captdalton
Posted on 10/24/22 at 8:40 am to captdalton
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It is strange that so many LSU fans have decided to hook their wagons to this.
Its even more baffling that some bama fans are defending hitting women.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 8:46 am to nicholastiger
Saban to Tennessee Fan:
Posted on 10/24/22 at 8:46 am to kengel2
Did a spokesperson from the local hospital give an update on her condition? I'm concerned. Hate to see a young lady attacked by a raging thug.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:45 am to Tuscaloosa
quote:I provided what I believe to be a logical and coherent post in response to the irrational takes by yourself and some other Alabama fans who support school over decency. I don't consider that a waste of time.
You just wasted like 10 minutes of your life on that.
quote:OK. He'd be arrested by someone who is deputized to perform an arrest, then, and not rogue football players upset about losing a game. Does Burton patrol your campus at night looking for crimes to stop?
What I said was that if the UT fan in this thread were to, in his words, “WALK ONTO THE FIELD WHEN THERE WASN’T A GAME BEING PLAYED” tonight, he’d be arrested for trespassing.
quote:Unless you are justifying what Burton did (which I addressed in my "waste of time" response to you), then this point is irrelevant. There were thousands of people on the field at the time, none of which "should have been there", and yet Burton still had no right to attack any of them for simply being there.
She wasn’t supposed to be there. That is all. We can argue about what the word “trespassing” means if you want, though.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:46 am to FooManChoo
What did Burton do exactly?
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:47 am to nicholastiger
14 years of pent-up jealousy in this thread
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:48 am to FooManChoo
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FooManChoo
Ok.
This post was edited on 10/24/22 at 9:50 am
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:49 am to Jumpinjack
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What did Burton do exactly?
I hear he beat the living piss out of a little girl.
Probably kicked her, too.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:50 am to Tuscaloosa
quote:I saw a woman attempting to run by a football player and said player reaching out and getting physical with said woman.
Also, this is complete and utter nonsensical bullshite, as the 144p video doesn’t show anything she might have done or said to him. Nobody has any idea what “instigated” it. You’ve seen a low resolution video with no audio.
Short of flashing a weapon at Burton, what do you think she could have done that justified him hitting her?
Also, in all this talk over the past week, I haven't seen any justification of the hit other than Saban's weak "fear" comments. Surely that fear of Burton's wasn't due to a woman making comments to him, was it?
I just want you to say that it's justified to hit a woman for talking back to a man. I want to see those words.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:50 am to Jumpinjack
quote:He physically attacked a woman who was running on to the field.
What did Burton do exactly?
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:51 am to Literalist
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Literalist
Figures a mizzou fan is ok with hitting women for no apparent reason.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:52 am to nicholastiger
Maybe they had a team vote?
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:52 am to FooManChoo
Physically attacked. Did he get arrested? Sounds serious.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:53 am to SavageOrangeJug
TN fans dumped beer on handicap bama fan... In a wheelchair.
Get your priorities straight before coming after a guy being rushed on the field.
Get your priorities straight before coming after a guy being rushed on the field.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:54 am to Jumpinjack
quote:A player attacking a fan out of anger is a serious issue. It's a shame the University of Alabama didn't take it very seriously.
Physically attacked. Did he get arrested? Sounds serious.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 10:10 am to FooManChoo
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Short of flashing a weapon at Burton, what do you think she could have done that justified him hitting her?
You didn’t say justify. You said instigate, which was a completely bullshite response, because your only piece of information is a 144p resolution video with no audio. But you like to hear yourself talk, so here we are.
quote:
The evidence showed that he was the instigator against that woman
This post was edited on 10/24/22 at 10:11 am
Posted on 10/24/22 at 10:14 am to FooManChoo
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A player attacking a fan out of anger is a serious issue. It's a shame the University of Alabama didn't take it very seriously.
It’s really not surprising. Sad, but not surprising.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 10:22 am to Tuscaloosa
quote:The fact you're acting the way you are is
Tuscaloosa
Posted on 10/24/22 at 12:05 pm to Tuscaloosa
quote:The reason why I went from instigate to justify is because outside of self-defense, there is no reasonable justification for hitting a woman like that if she instigated the engagement. If she instigated by saying something to him, he is still not justified in his response. Let's say for the sake of argument that she said the most vile thing imaginable to him to cause his response. If he were so angry at her for what she said that he couldn't control his desire to hit her, he would have appeared more unsettled than he was. In the video, he attacked her and then kept walking without hardly breaking his stride, and he didn't look back, but moved his head forward. The video doesn't show evidence that she instigated it. What it does show is that Burton attacked the woman.
You didn’t say justify. You said instigate, which was a completely bull shite response, because your only piece of information is a 144p resolution video with no audio. But you like to hear yourself talk, so here we are.
The only possible ways you could justify Burton's response is if he was acting on behalf of security or if he was in fear for his life. He clearly wasn't acting on behalf of security (so the argument that she shouldn't have been on the field is irrelevant), so that leaves self-defense.
From a self-defense perspective, the woman wasn't doing anything in the video that supports a non-verbal threat (which is why I mentioned flashing a weapon) to Burton. She wasn't holding a weapon in her hand from what can be seen, and no reports have claimed she had one, either in her hands or on her person that she made known to Burton that would give him cause to attack her to stop a threat. Also, if she had a weapon, his push/hit to the head of the woman would not have sufficed to stop a threat, and he would have either had to follow up by subduing her, or run away in fear. He did neither. Instead, he seemed to casually lean over (out of his way, since she wasn't in his direct path after crossing in front of him) and lay his hand on her, and then continue walking (very casually and with no sense of urgency, I might add). So self-defense is out of the question.
You have no leg to stand on here. He should not have put his hand on the fan and there is no rational defense for it. You are being unreasonable, placing your support for that school over common decency. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 12:48 pm to FooManChoo
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he would have appeared more unsettled than he was
You sure do make a lot of assumptions without knowing anything other than what you watched on a 144p resolution video without audio.
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