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Here’s why Mizzou is the way it is
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:41 pm
Mizzou is the only D1 P5 football program in a state of 6.1 million people.
Mizzou has two medium sized population centers within its borders that regularly pump out enough talent to make Mizzou competitive in the SEC if it could just grab those kids.
Mizzou is centrally located within the State, theoretically allowing it to recruit all of its major populations centers easier.
Per capita it has the second highest ratio of Fortune 500 companies in the SEC
Which makes that fact even more amplified by the fact that again its the only school in state, which given the number one (Texas) at some level shares theoretical donations amongst its P5 schools, somewhat nullifies that stat.
All of its major populations centers outside of Columbia itself sit on/near the state borders. These cities are major hubs for expats, especially in KC MO where there are neighbors who are Husker, chickenhawks ,Wildcat ,Hawkeye and Arkansas fan's collectively then Mizzou). The kids of these parents breed expat loyalty into their kids.
STL loses out most of its talent to ND and Ohio State. STL has a crazy concentration of Catholics, and many St. Louisan's second team is ND.
Despite having plenty of wealthy companies and alum we have very few that seem to donate regularly in large amounts, this may be because of many of the embarrassing incidents that have occurred over the last decade (Funnily enough, because many of the Walton's attended Mizzou and or still live in Missouri, Arkansas and Mizzou regularly have the same largest donor).
Finally... this is the biggest reason... and that is the professional sports in Missouri have had a stupid amount of success over the last decade+. People in my state have been absolutely spoiled by successful Professional franchises that eat majorly into the interest of the average Mizzou fan. The populous only has so much money to spend any given year and sadly for Mizzou.... product on the field is keeping people from spending its dollars on the state flagship.
The Cardinals and Royals combine for 3 WS in the last two decades, with the Cardinals being in the playoffs perennially almost every year in that span.
The Blues finally won a cup and like the Cardinals for two decades are a regular every year in the playoffs.
The Chiefs have their SB, have been to the Superbowl two times recently, and will make the playoffs for the foreseeable future.
Even the Rams had a brief run of success during this time.
Obligatory NCAA Punching Bag.
Mizzou has two medium sized population centers within its borders that regularly pump out enough talent to make Mizzou competitive in the SEC if it could just grab those kids.
Mizzou is centrally located within the State, theoretically allowing it to recruit all of its major populations centers easier.
Per capita it has the second highest ratio of Fortune 500 companies in the SEC
Which makes that fact even more amplified by the fact that again its the only school in state, which given the number one (Texas) at some level shares theoretical donations amongst its P5 schools, somewhat nullifies that stat.
All of its major populations centers outside of Columbia itself sit on/near the state borders. These cities are major hubs for expats, especially in KC MO where there are neighbors who are Husker, chickenhawks ,Wildcat ,Hawkeye and Arkansas fan's collectively then Mizzou). The kids of these parents breed expat loyalty into their kids.
STL loses out most of its talent to ND and Ohio State. STL has a crazy concentration of Catholics, and many St. Louisan's second team is ND.
Despite having plenty of wealthy companies and alum we have very few that seem to donate regularly in large amounts, this may be because of many of the embarrassing incidents that have occurred over the last decade (Funnily enough, because many of the Walton's attended Mizzou and or still live in Missouri, Arkansas and Mizzou regularly have the same largest donor).
Finally... this is the biggest reason... and that is the professional sports in Missouri have had a stupid amount of success over the last decade+. People in my state have been absolutely spoiled by successful Professional franchises that eat majorly into the interest of the average Mizzou fan. The populous only has so much money to spend any given year and sadly for Mizzou.... product on the field is keeping people from spending its dollars on the state flagship.
The Cardinals and Royals combine for 3 WS in the last two decades, with the Cardinals being in the playoffs perennially almost every year in that span.
The Blues finally won a cup and like the Cardinals for two decades are a regular every year in the playoffs.
The Chiefs have their SB, have been to the Superbowl two times recently, and will make the playoffs for the foreseeable future.
Even the Rams had a brief run of success during this time.
Obligatory NCAA Punching Bag.
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:46 pm to McMillan
We also have shitty fans. South Carolina football is historically a steaming pile of garbage surrounded by more successful programs and they have a rabid fanbase anyway.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:46 pm to silverstreak
Yeah, it’s a long story.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:50 pm to BreakawayZou83
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We also have shitty fans
The athletic department has played a major role in shaping the fanbase.
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:59 pm to McMillan
Maybe someone like Petrino and maximize the transfer portal plus NIL gets Missouri where they want to be. Just need some sustained success over a period of time.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 1:03 pm to McMillan
Plus your program is bland. This isn't shite talk, I genuinely find Missouri athletics boring even when you're good. Even when you're kicking our asses, I just don't care very much.
I don't know if you just don't have traditions or if they're boring traditions or if you simply haven't done a good job of marketing any hidden good traditions. But Missouri always feels like Generic Team #4
I don't know if you just don't have traditions or if they're boring traditions or if you simply haven't done a good job of marketing any hidden good traditions. But Missouri always feels like Generic Team #4
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 9/20/22 at 1:04 pm to McMillan
You also hired a nerd to be your football coach
Posted on 9/20/22 at 1:10 pm to McMillan
Gary Pinckle (spelling???) had you guys rolling. I never understood why they pushed him out?
Posted on 9/20/22 at 1:14 pm to Reservoir Ag
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Gary Pinckle (spelling???)
Gary Stinkel is the correct spelling
Posted on 9/20/22 at 1:31 pm to Reservoir Ag
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Gary Pinckle (spelling???) had you guys rolling. I never understood why they pushed him out?
Cancer pushed him out
Posted on 9/20/22 at 1:32 pm to McMillan
TL;DR
Y'all have no business being in our league and will never be embraced as one of us.
GTFOH
Y'all have no business being in our league and will never be embraced as one of us.
GTFOH
Posted on 9/20/22 at 1:34 pm to weremoose
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I don't know if you just don't have traditions or if they're boring traditions or if you simply haven't done a good job of marketing any hidden good traditions.
But they jingle their keys on 3rd down, baw. Respect their rich heritage.
Football means so much to those frauds that they have one entire end of their HS stadium that has no grandstands.
frick that rock M. Your mascot looks like he has Downs.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 1:37 pm to McMillan
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McMillan
Thank you for the post.
While all your points are valid, I think culture is item #1
2 of the worst SEC football schools (UK and SC) have some of the most dedicated fans even in loss and bad weather. I think this is rooted in generations passing the culture to the kids. Baseball can be pretty boring but a big part of the appeal is the memory of your first game with an elder mentor and a bonding moment.
In this age, not sure how you get that bond when kids today are more focused on their phone and family has become a distant second.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 1:42 pm to Reservoir Ag
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Gary Pinckle (spelling???) had you guys rolling. I never understood why they pushed him out?
The official story is he left because of cancer. This is certainly a big part of why he left. His cancer has gone and returned again since his retirement. I am pretty sure he is still alive.
He also had a DUI arrest and, after his public apology, continued to drink & drive and some other issues related to his drinking were swept under the rug (I was told this by a Mizzou alum - no idea if it is all true).
Posted on 9/20/22 at 2:33 pm to McMillan
Maybe something to do with being Yankees competing against Southerners who take football way more seriously than you do
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