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Texas knows they have to move their visitor section for the SEC and already has a plan

Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:28 pm
Posted by Joesh56
Lexington, KY
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:28 pm
I just thought this was hilarious and poetic justice for LSU fans(and Bama fans after this year), but I was talking to my friend who goes to UT Austin, and he was telling me that a bunch of the students found out their student section was moving for this upcoming football season and were confused as to why, as apparently this is the 3rd time Texas has moved the students going back to 2015. I thought it had something to do with their upcoming move to the SEC, and when I googled it, nothing came up at first. I then used verbatim and the search by date options, and I found this interview from the Longhorn network and there’s also a newsletter they sent out in February for season ticket renewals(but I’m not including that), and it turns out I was very much correct.



The link to the interview of Texas’ AD is here: Longhorn Network Townhall Texas’ athletic director in the YouTube link specifically says at 38:05 and 43:30 that they will be relocating the visitors section/visiting band to the lower bowl of DKR for the SEC move and they also had to go ahead and move the student section for 2022 and beyond in preparation for the move to get everything in order, give themselves time to adjust, and to help the season ticket holders affected relocate to other seats over the next few years(they apparently kicked out and moved 10 entire sections of season ticket holders in sections 16-26 of DKR in February of this year.)



Their AD is actually misquoting the number, because it’s 2000, not 2500 according to the bylaws. Or maybe the SEC is punishing Texas for what they did to LSU and what they’re likely gonna do to Alabama this year, and will make them have 2500 seats for a few seasons lol.



I think it’s absolutely hilarious Texas is being forced to move it. They aren’t special and weren’t going to be allowed to evade the SEC bylaws on visiting teams getting a minimum of 2k seats in the lower bowl(1k of which must be in a contiguous block according to SEC bylaws) and the student section cannot be within the 30 yard lines if it’s within 25 rows from the field and behind the visiting bench. The SEC denied A&M a waiver on this exact thing when they first entered the league. Oklahoma will have to make similar adjustments, but they never moved the visiting band/visitors section from the lower bowl, so props to them.



Texas’ student section for 2018-2021 extended to the 40 yard line directly behind the visiting bench, so they had to move it, and the Longhorn band with it. I imagine Texas is holding 2k single-game tickets only in preparation for the move to the SEC in sections 31 & 32 for the SEC visitors’ section, where it has historically been at DKR according to my friend.



They aren’t moving the visitors section until they join the SEC, since they won’t be getting the same reciprocity from the other Big 12 schools(in fact, it was apparently OK State, Texas Tech, and TCU doing it first that made Texas do it beginning in 2018.) There is no rule on placement of the visitors section in the Big 12, except for the requirement of 3850 seats to the visiting team according to their bylaws.




Here’s Texas’ new DKR season ticket map, and like I mentioned, it appears they’re gonna be putting the SEC mandated visitors section/visiting band in portions of sections 31 & 32 when they join, where their student section was in the last few years: DKR 2022 Seating Map



And a question for Bama fans, do y’all wanna be petty in 2023 and put Texas in the upper deck, even though they’re planning on moving it? Apparently the Bama-Texas contract calls for 5k tickets to the visiting team. It will be interesting to see what Texas does this season, knowing they fully could put Bama fans in the lower bowl. And it will be interesting to see what Bama does in response in 2023.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 2:10 am
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:31 pm to
Texas will be the rough equivalent of Miss State in the SEC. They are in for a rude awakening.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
42507 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:32 pm to
Holy shite Baw, no one is going to read that.
Posted by WhaddupDawg
In your heart
Member since Apr 2022
3833 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:32 pm to
Should I quit my job before I read this entire post
Posted by BSherrill
Member since Nov 2015
1962 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:37 pm to
I heard due to attendance issues no one was affected.

Posted by Gimme Vaughn
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:38 pm to
Tldr. Synopsis.

frick texas.
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:45 pm to
I can’t breathe, can you insert breathing breaks next time?
Posted by JetDawg
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Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:47 pm to
Great, great post! Thanks!!

I listened to the T.U. AD interview....one can easily tell that Texas knows that they're up against a GAUNTLET having to face SEC schools every week and our rabid fans that travel like crazy. They're getting ready and preparing NOW because they know this isn't going to be easy for them by no stretch of the imagination.

I loved what the AD said about Arkansas referring to the size and depth of their program....you can tell that that game vs. the Razorbacks was a wake-up call.

The AD visited other SEC venues and saw that they needed to make adjustments in re-positioning their marching band and student sections in order to make DKR a more hostile place.

Great info, Joesh56!!

This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 9:51 pm
Posted by Porker Face
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:52 pm to


We beat your arse in Fayetteville last year

Better get used to hog calls bruh
Posted by JetDawg
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

Holy shite Baw, no one is going to read that.

Are you an American? Gee whiz, people, get off your duffs and make your eyeballs do the walking for once.

It's a great post he wrote -- if you'll read it! Duh.
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:56 pm to
You have to read up on paragraphs
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:00 am to
quote:

Texas will be the rough equivalent of Miss State in the SEC. They are in for a rude awakening.

Daily Affirmation.
Posted by agswin
The Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
4359 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:01 am to
quote:

And a question for Bama fans, do y’all wanna be petty in 2023 and put Texas in the upper deck, even though they’re planning on moving it?


Your word "petty" appears to be an editorial comment.

Bama does not need anyone's advice but in dealing with some schools it is advised to always have an enforceable contract.
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
3169 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:05 am to
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I think it’s absolutely hilarious Texas is being forced to move it.


#1 It is shocking that anyone cares so much about this kind of stuff.

#2 It sounds like the SEC has guidelines the Big 12 doesn't have, so Texas is making the necessary changes to be inline with SEC guidelines. Why is this upsetting to you?
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
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Member since Oct 2014
2846 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:12 am to
quote:

#1 It is shocking that anyone cares so much about this kind of stuff.

Right? Texas is making changes to its student and visiting section seating in preparation for the conference move. And?
quote:

#2 It sounds like the SEC has guidelines the Big 12 doesn't have, so Texas is making the necessary changes to be inline with SEC guidelines. Why is this upsetting to you?

LSU opened my eyes to it, but the SEC fans are the largest collection of dainty fusspots ever assembled.
Posted by Kentucker
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:13 am to
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This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 8:26 am
Posted by Ptins944
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:57 am to
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I thought it had something to do with their upcoming move to the SEC, and when I googled it, nothing came up at first

The ticket movement over the past ~ 5 years has been primarily due to the southend end zone demolition, temporary fix w/ongoing construction and moving into completed facilities. The pending SEC move in the middle of all this makes for a lot of moving pieces.

I would hazard a guess that Texas is in the upper tier of season ticket holders and number of limited acce$$ $uite$/club$ within DKR-TMS.

Given the numbers being moved, and the desire to have seats proximate to club access, it is prudent to displace those ticket holders over time, as it is difficult to correlate the value of end zone seats to lower bowl and upper deck, etc.

A&M was a mass cluster F**K when they gave new money donors seat/access priority over the old guard that had lifetime donations/seats taken from them. Litigation is ongoing, and will get a kick in the arse now that Texas & OU will be on the menu.

Texas will oblige the SEC on this issue without a lot of push back, knowing it is uniform within the conference and not punitive. The move not happening til 2025 gives them time to tweak it and get it right.





Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:23 am to
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:39 am to
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Posted by agswin
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 11:22 am to
Friendly reminder: There are no prizes awarded for the longest post on the Rant. War and Peace is shorter.
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