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re: Best Running Back in SEC History?

Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:36 pm to
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The wildcat is a formation, not a position. In that formation, the QB is removed from the game, and the RB takes the snap directly. This gives the offense 1 extra blocker, which is important because as I've been saying, the running game is a numbers game.

The formation itself has nothing to do with Walker or Henry, since neither of them ran the formation. I was merely pointing out the concept to demonstrate that the running game is about numbers. How many blockers you have to take care of the defenders. The wildcat is an advantage because of the extra blocker.


You are failing in semantics on this take.
It isnt the wildcat that creates the extra blocker.
It is the player receiving the snap as a ballcarrier that creates the extra blocker. That player can be a wildcat player (sony michel), wildcat qb (cam newton), or mobile qb (jalen hurts or jordan jefferson).
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In the end, it really doesn't matter because the player is either blocked, having to defend a route, or whatever. In each case the player is accounted for, and there is no real difference in the end.

Blocking in a phone booth, blocking 4 yards off the line of scrimmage, and blocking 16 yards off the line of scrimmage all matter for the average yards per carry.
Blocking a defender who is firing down off the snap is different than blocking a defender reading run/pass keys.

It reads like your idea of blocking is from a video game. For you, there is no difference in leverage and reach.

At this point, there is nothing a knowledgeable football fan can do to help you out. You either understand that a defense plays differently for an offense that runs 3 plays 71% of the time versus an offense that mixes a lot closer to 50% pass (even if the running plays are still only 3 different types).
Posted by SlicedBread
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:48 pm to


Mark Sanchez, greatest wildcat blocking QB ever.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:50 pm to
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You are failing in semantics on this take.
It isnt the wildcat that creates the extra blocker.
It is the player receiving the snap as a ballcarrier that creates the extra blocker. That player can be a wildcat player (sony michel), wildcat qb (cam newton), or mobile qb (jalen hurts or jordan jefferson).


A RB pretty much does not throw the ball, while a duel threat QB will.

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Blocking in a phone booth, blocking 4 yards off the line of scrimmage, and blocking 16 yards off the line of scrimmage all matter for the average yards per carry.
Blocking a defender who is firing down off the snap is different than blocking a defender reading run/pass keys.


If the defender is blocked, then there is no difference. It would only be different if the defender is not blocked, and even then the difference is going to be mild.

Having too many defenders up close is also why you see people run for 50 yard TDs on 4th and 1. Especially with faster backs because they won't get caught from behind. They take a wrong angle or get blocked, even though they are 100% expecting the run, and there is no safety there to help.

70% of Derrick Henry's yards in 2015 were after contact. So I'm really not sure where even if you were right, it would matter in this case.

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It reads like your idea of blocking is from a video game. For you, there is no difference in leverage and reach.


To me you sound like a guy who only knows basic cliches rather than any real deep understanding of things. Unable to understand where it applies and why, and where it doesn't apply and why.

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At this point, there is nothing a knowledgeable football fan can do to help you out. You either understand that a defense plays differently for an offense that runs 3 plays 71% of the time versus an offense that mixes a lot closer to 50% pass (even if the running plays are still only 3 different types).


If the defenses play differently is not the question, and apparently you'll never understand that.

Everything the defense does is in response to what the offense is doing. Teams that run the ball 71% of the time do that because they are built to do that.

Alabama ran the ball about 60% of the time in 2015, so in reality you are talking about 1 extra run play every 10 plays, 5 or 6 extra run plays over an entire game and pretending it's the only thing that matters.

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