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re: Best Running Back in SEC History?
Posted on 5/29/22 at 6:23 pm to Pulpwood Patterson
Posted on 5/29/22 at 6:23 pm to Pulpwood Patterson
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If he’s the greatest SEC RB all time why wasn’t he the best RB on his team per Saban?
Barry Sanders wasn't sitting behind Earl Campbell either.
Barry Sanders collegiate stats
1986: 74 attempts; 325 yards; 4.4 YPC; 2 TDs
1987: 105 attempts; 603 yards; 5.7 YPC; 9 TDs
WINS STARTING JOB (SUMMER 1988)
1988: 344 attempts; 2,628 yards; 7.6 YPC; 37 TDs
Derrick Henry collegiate stats
2013: 35 attempts; 382 yards; 10.9 YPC; 3 TDs
2014: 172 attempts; 990 yards; 5.8 YPC; 11 TDs
WINS STARTING JOB (SUMMER 2015)
2015: 395 attempts; 2,219 yards; 5.6 YPC; 28 TDs
Also...the fact that Henry did what he did with his measurables is pretty improbable. The kid was built like a linebacker and many Alabama fans thought he was going to play linebacker because he was recruited to Alabama as an Athlete and Florida recruited him to play linebacker.
He wanted to play RB even though few people thought it probable that he could be successful at the position. Saban gave him a chance and the kid ended up delivering in spades.
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Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:27 pm to lsufball19
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Well Fournette did that year so there’s one
Only 9 more to go.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:27 pm to 3down10
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How many times are Georgia fans going to call the sugar bowl against #7 Notre Dame a national championship game?
If it makes you feel better, the game that decided the national championship in 1980.
And since you brought it up: Every bowl game he played, he went into the game with a very good shot at winning the NCship.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:29 pm to Pulpwood Patterson
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Awesome 1 good season. Herschel 3.
TJ Yeldons backup by decision of coach Saban. If he’s the greatest SEC RB all time why wasn’t he the best RB on his team per Saban? And he wasn’t sitting behind Earl Campbell.
An aging DeMarco Murray’s backup with the Titans.
Well, if you think of a reason why Walker was better than Henry, let me know. Because this type of post ain't it.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:30 pm to koreandawg
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If it makes you feel better, the game that decided the national championship in 1980.
And since you brought it up: Every bowl game he played, he went into the game with a very good shot at winning the NCship.
No it didn't.
If Notre Dame wins, some dumb fan from another team is probably claiming the Rose Bowl or Cotton Bowl was the national championship game, and I'd have to let them know they were dumb for it.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:31 pm to RollTide1987
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Barry Sanders wasn't sitting behind Earl Campbell either.
Sanders was literally sitting behind a HOF NFL back.
Barry also did what he did in less games. His bowl stats don't count. So we're talking 11 games vs. 14 to 15 every year.
Also, there were plenty of people at the time that thought Sanders was better than Thomas.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:32 pm to RollTide1987
Georgia fans in here are being silly thinking that Derrick Henry shouldn't be in the conversation of Best SEC running back. Some are even using NFL stats as if that has anything to do with college and Derrick Henry is no slouch in that also 
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:34 pm to 3down10
These guys are acting as if Derrick Henry sat behind scrubs his years at Bama. All the RB's on that roster were 4 and 5 stars coming out of high school with college experience already what RB wouldn't sit behind that 
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:34 pm to 3down10
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If Notre Dame wins, some dumb fan from another team is probably claiming the Rose Bowl or Cotton Bowl was the national championship game, and I'd have to let them know they were dumb for it.
I fee like Ben Shapiro here on a college campus.
So the 1980 bowl game with ND had no impact on the NCship?
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:37 pm to qman91
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Best Running Back in SEC History?
These guys are acting as if Derrick Henry sat behind scrubs his years at Bama. All the RB's on that roster were 4 and 5 stars coming out of high school with college experience already what RB wouldn't sit behind that
He wasn't sitting behind scrubs. But was his one great year really that much better than anything we've seen? No. It wasn't. He did that in 15 games. It was a great season. But you could certainly argue that any of HW's or Bo's one great one was as good or better.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:38 pm to koreandawg
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I fee like Ben Shapiro here on a college campus.
So the 1980 bowl game with ND had no impact on the NCship. "If, was" sorta implies what you are arguing against is true.
It had no impact for ND.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:39 pm to qman91
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unning Back in SEC History?
Georgia fans in here are being silly thinking that Derrick Henry shouldn't be in the conversation of Best SEC running back. Some are even using NFL stats as if that has anything to do with college and Derrick Henry is no slouch in that also
We're having a conversation. You keep putting his name here, so he's in it.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:41 pm to 3down10
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Best Running Back in SEC History?
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I fee like Ben Shapiro here on a college campus.
So the 1980 bowl game with ND had no impact on the NCship. "If, was" sorta implies what you are arguing against is true.
It had no impact for ND.
That's not what was stated. I changed the statement to try and make you happy, and you still denied that one. Which was it was a game that decided the 1980 NCship. I'd say the same for Nebraska/Clemson 1982 Orange Bowl, though if Clemson had lost, Nebraska could not have won. If we win the game, we win the title. We won the game. The other games didn't matter at that point. Your way, Walker never played in a bowl game that didn't matter. Either way, it's true.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:43 pm to RollTide1987
I don’t disagree with any of this. Though Sanders was sitting behind Thurmon Thomas, a hall of fame caliber back. Barry Sanders was a great college back, but his greatness was because of what he did for the historically awful Detroit Lions.
But we’re talking about being the best SEC running back all time and Henry didn’t start over TJ Yeldon and he continued to split carries after that. Nick Chubb is the 2nd all time leading rusher in the SEC and I’d dock him for sharing time with Sony Michel. In fact, there were times he was outplayed by Michel.
It’s not just the numbers. Though Herschel is the all time SEC leader, he took a team winning 6-8 games and they dominated the SEC 3 straight years going undefeated in the SEC ,which hasn’t been duplicated since.
But we’re talking about being the best SEC running back all time and Henry didn’t start over TJ Yeldon and he continued to split carries after that. Nick Chubb is the 2nd all time leading rusher in the SEC and I’d dock him for sharing time with Sony Michel. In fact, there were times he was outplayed by Michel.
It’s not just the numbers. Though Herschel is the all time SEC leader, he took a team winning 6-8 games and they dominated the SEC 3 straight years going undefeated in the SEC ,which hasn’t been duplicated since.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:43 pm to koreandawg
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He wasn't sitting behind scrubs. But was his one great year really that much better than anything we've seen? No. It wasn't. He did that in 15 games. It was a great season. But you could certainly argue that any of HW's or Bo's one great one was as good or better.
He didn't need 15 games to break the record.
Herschel in 1981: 385 carries for 1,891 yards.
Derrick Henry when he broke the record: 327 carries for 1,932 yards.
Henry broke the record while having 58 less carries.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:46 pm to 3down10
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Only 9 more to go.
McAffery
D Cook
E Elliott
Just off the top of my head. I didn’t make the claim of 10 but there were multiple backs that would have run for days with that volume of carries running behind that line in college
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:48 pm to 3down10
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Henry broke the record while having 58 less carries.
Fournette broke it in fewer. So is he a better back than both? Just trying to follow the logic ITT
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:49 pm to koreandawg
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That's not what was stated. I changed the statement to try and make you happy, and you still denied that one. Which was it was a game that decided the 1980 NCship. I'd say the same for Nebraska/Clemson 1982 Orange Bowl, though if Clemson had lost, Nebraska could not have won. If we win the game, we win the title. We won the game. The other games didn't matter at that point. Your way, Walker never played in a bowl game that didn't matter. Either way, it's true.
It doesn't matter how you change your statement, it wasn't a national championship game. If Notre Dame wins, they do not win the national championship.
I've never in my life called Alabama's sugar bowl games "National Championship Games", because it's dumb and wrong. They are Sugar Bowl wins. And that's while Alabama has actually played #1 vs #2 in the sugar bowl multiple times, not #7 Notre Dame.
Because winning that game, even with #1 and #2 is no guarantee of a national championship. The voters can still put someone else #1, like the coaches poll did after the 1978 season.
The closest you can say is that you pretty much needed to have a Sugar Bowl win to have a chance at the national championship as an SEC team. But at no point was it a "national championship" game in the poll era.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:51 pm to 3down10
I can’t make you think anything. “Best” is largely in the eye of the beholder, it’s subjective. I like Henry. But it’s pretty clear, the overwhelming opinion of the best not only SEC back of all time but college back of all time, potentially CFB player of all time is thought to be Walker. That doesn’t make it right, but it’s as close as we’re going to get
I appreciate that you feel that strongly about DH. I also appreciate that you haven’t resulted in this thread to name calling and low bar insults.
I’m a Falcons fan but I like to see the Titans do well and I love the way he plays. I hope he has another 2000 yard season.
Cheers
I appreciate that you feel that strongly about DH. I also appreciate that you haven’t resulted in this thread to name calling and low bar insults.
I’m a Falcons fan but I like to see the Titans do well and I love the way he plays. I hope he has another 2000 yard season.
Cheers
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:55 pm to 3down10
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He didn't need 15 games to break the record.
Herschel in 1981: 385 carries for 1,891 yards.
Derrick Henry when he broke the record: 327 carries for 1,932 yards.
Henry broke the record while having 58 less carries.
Is it easier or harder to run the football when you mix in the pass?
Georgia attempted 172 passes on the season in 1980 (15.6 per game).
Bama attempted 393 passes on the 2015 season (29.7 per game).
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