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Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:34 am to JustGetItRight
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:34 am to JustGetItRight
Just because Tennessee partnered with the NCAA does not mean it went both ways. Are you some kind of Tennessee sympathizer or something?
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:35 am to qman91
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I downvoted you by accident but I totally agree with you, BOB wasn't terrible but he lacked creativity especially during times when the opposing team had affected our gameplan.
BOB's style of playcalling requires high-level execution. He's not really a fit for college playcalling in my opinion either but he's at one of the small handful of places where it is more feasible to take that approach due to the overall talent level.
Sarkisian was more of a college playcaller in my opinion. Yes, he also like a more pro-style multiple offense but he had a habit of finding moments to scheme people open rather than requiring execution from the player to get open. This is why Billingsley flourished with Sark but was mostly a non-factor with BOB.
In BOB's offense, you're getting open with your own ability to win your matchup. In Sark's offense, a few of the guys would be doing that but the 2nd and 3rd tier options were getting easy money catches influenced by the defense taking away the primary options.
That's what we lacked on offense this year. For a team that targeted two guys so often, we did very little to take advantage of the amount of attention Metchie and Williams got from the defense.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:40 am to Diego Ricardo
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In BOB's offense, you're getting open with your own ability to win your matchup. In Sark's offense, a few of the guys would be doing that but the 2nd and 3rd tier options were getting easy money catches influenced by the defense taking away the primary options.
BOB is a good coach but Sark and Kiffin were geniuses at finding, creating, and exploiting mismatches
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:57 am to JustGetItRight
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On Nov. 4, Tennessee announced it had completed its internal investigation. Athletics director Danny White, who was hired after the investigation began, said the university was the NCAA’s “partner” in the probe.
Danny White said that... I wouldn't take his word to heart.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:04 am to Panthers4life
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Danny White said that... I wouldn't take his word to heart.
I mean who else other than their own athletics director?
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:16 am to Panthers4life
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Marrone's coaching style didn't mesh with Alabama's style. It's more of NFL level coaching style.
Please explain this... How are they different?
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:18 am to bogeypro
All I can think is in the NFL maybe it's more about teaching assignments than it is really building technique from the ground up with individual players. I think a lot of pro guys just expect guys entering the league to have a base level of ability and technique?
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:19 am to bogeypro
LINK
This will explain it for you.
This will explain it for you.
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The college guy is a “builder” and “shaper.”
This coach gets handed a young, 18-year-old kid who wants to be a pro player, presumably, or else wants to go on and be a full-fledged adult in another field.
Either way, he has to motivate this youngster to be a part of his team and his system. He’s basically working with an unmolded lump of clay as opposed to somebody who is more in touch with who he is and what he wants.
So, the college coach must meld all of these younger guys, still trying to find themselves, into a successful, winning football team.
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The NFL coach, on the other hand, is dealing with men—big, fast men—who have already “made it” all the way to the pro level.
These athletes have dreamed the dream and are now living the dream.
Mere lumps of clay no more, these guys are off the potter’s wheel and come complete with their own attitudes, sets of ideals and yes, they don’t need some guy to help them make it, they’re already there. So, the NFL guy must manage all these professionals, these dudes with ‘tudes, into a successful, winning football team.
Again, it’s like two totally different worlds being played out on the same field, with the same rules, using the same equipment.
And the two coaches leading the way at each level couldn’t have two more different jobs to do.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:22 am to bogeypro
Just to reiterate what others have posted. I think Marrone has grown accustom to just deploying a gameplan to offensive linemen who already have developed/honed skill. This is my reckon for why things failed to progress and we just stuck with the most experienced guys when there may have been a few guys that had more talent down the depth chart.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:38 am to Diego Ricardo
Thanks for the clarification... It was obvious that he wasn't good here and wouldn't be around long term.
I'm assuming coach boob has similar issues... With the exception being that he was in the NFL and failed already. So, why would a year in college make him more desirable now?
I'm assuming coach boob has similar issues... With the exception being that he was in the NFL and failed already. So, why would a year in college make him more desirable now?
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:45 am to bogeypro
For whatever reason, I'm just glad we will have a better OL coach and probably OC. I knew it was a mistake when they were hired.
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:45 am to bogeypro
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I'm assuming coach boob has similar issues... With the exception being that he was in the NFL and failed already. So, why would a year in college make him more desirable now?
Being around winning lately washes off a lot of stink on a resume
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:12 am to Diego Ricardo
He didn't fail as a head coach, he failed as a GM. He won four nfc south titles in six years. Became GM, and traded two of his top players for next to nothing, stayed 0 and 4 and got fired. As a head coach he was successful. He only had one losing season not counting the 4 games into 2020.
His teams went 9-7, 9-7 nfcs title, 9-7 nfcs title, 4-12, 11-5 nfcs title, 10-6 nfcs title. Had he not taken the gm position as well as hc, he would probably still be the coach.
His teams went 9-7, 9-7 nfcs title, 9-7 nfcs title, 4-12, 11-5 nfcs title, 10-6 nfcs title. Had he not taken the gm position as well as hc, he would probably still be the coach.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:31 am to Remiden
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He didn't fail as a head coach, he failed as a GM
To be fair, he was in a bad division and couldn't get past the divisional play off game. His players couldn't stand him and even "NFL Man of the Year" JJ Watt tried to fight him in practice on more than one occasion and was a big factor in getting BOB fired.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:41 am to Remiden
I never said he couldn’t string together enough wins to make the playoffs in the NFL. I just said his resume has some stink on it due to how it fell apart in Houston. Being around winning in Tuscaloosa helped him out. Just the same as Kiffin, Locksley, and Sarkisian before him.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:59 am to Diego Ricardo
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mean who else other than their own athletics director?
This was nothing more than a total screw job by Tennessee directed at Pruitt to smear his name, void his contract and keep others from hiring. That's why they refuse to release details. All you new Bama fans that didn't grow up in the 70s, 80 and 90s didn't grow up hating Tennessee as our most hated rival and it shows.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:00 pm to DT55Forever1
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To be fair, he was in a bad division and couldn't get past the divisional play off game. His players couldn't stand him and even "NFL Man of the Year" JJ Watt tried to fight him in practice on more than one occasion and was a big factor in getting BOB fired.
Yeah, he was fired for being a shitty GM, but if he was loved by the organization as a coach they'd have found a way to work things out. As a HC he is adequate, but nothing more. He won't burn a team to the ground Adam Gase style, but he's also never going to win a Super Bowl. So it's accurate to say he wasn't fired for being a bad coach, but had he not totally shite the bed as a GM he'd have been fired for being an average coach who can't get over the hump within a couple of years. Especially with Happy Ending's current legal mess.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:07 pm to Robot Santa
My biggest point was that he wasn't have failure as a coach and that will not be a sticking point for nfl teams to give him a chance.
He most likely has had a position lined up for a while (prob pats oc).
He most likely has had a position lined up for a while (prob pats oc).
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:14 pm to Remiden
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:18 pm to artompkins
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This was nothing more than a total screw job by Tennessee directed at Pruitt to smear his name, void his contract and keep others from hiring. That's why they refuse to release details. All you new Bama fans that didn't grow up in the 70s, 80 and 90s didn't grow up hating Tennessee as our most hated rival and it shows.
I'm not young enough to not remember the 90s.
The response was w/r/t whether there was an investigation on-going with the NCAA. I agree it was a screw job to save them money and poison pill Pruitt away from Alabama or Georgia. That's not what I'm talking about...I am simply pointing out the University of Tennessee Athletics Director would be an authority on an on-going investigation of his school with/by the NCAA.
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