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re: New Head Coach Thread: Officially Official 2020

Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:04 am to
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:04 am to
Wrong.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28325 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:04 am to
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We aren't close to being competitive with them and it is purely based on talent.


I disagree.

Kirby has Gus' O nailed. Gus could beat saban at home. Gus can't beat Kirby to the frozen food aisle.
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
8007 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:05 am to
Nothing has changed on MC since Gus Malzahn was our head coach other than Oregon decided how much they were going to offer him to stay. Doesn't effect our pursuit other than tempering the market.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22568 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:07 am to
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Nothing has changed on MC since Gus Malzahn was our head coach other than Oregon decided how much they were going to offer him to stay. Doesn't effect our pursuit other than tempering the market.



This. 100%
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 9:09 am
Posted by jsmoove
Member since Oct 2010
12627 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:07 am to
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It's 2 hrs from the coast, weed is legal & nowhere near the pressure of the SEC.


We're just as close to the coast. 60's don't usually start to show their heads until April up there. Our Spring starts in February a lot of the time. It's not as bad as Idaho or Sweden, but still more winter and wet weather. I do wish we had their falls. Besides, you can get that other thing you were talking about delivered.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19380 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:09 am to
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I disagree

That's fine. It's what message boards are for.

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Kirby has Gus' O nailed

Not just offense. Did you see this year's game where Georgia ran it down our throats when we all knew it was coming? The talent gap between Auburn and UGA and Bama is huge and only growing. We could have Bill Belichick roaming the sidelines in two years and get beat by UGA if the recruiting trends stay the same.

Just imagine where Georgia is if they had held on to Justin Fields.
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 9:11 am
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3665 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:10 am to
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elite recruiting is great, but not the only ingredient.


TRUTH.

You have to at the very least be able to:

1. get them here
2. push/develop them to their full potential
3. have an effective scheme
4. make the right decisions on gameday


Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22568 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:14 am to
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You have to at the very least be able to:

1. get them here
2. push/develop them to their full potential
3. have an effective scheme
4. make the right decisions on gameday




How many of those did we have with Malzahn?
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42590 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:26 am to
So you are saying there is a chance?
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:29 am to
Offensively we had #3 for the first 2 years of his stint as HC.

During home games for most of his tenure we had #4.

Defensively I’d argue that we had #1 for the 2nd half of his tenure.

But we never put it all together
Posted by ATLtiger12
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2013
675 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:35 am to
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I’d take Georgia’s record the last 3-4 years...all day


Kirby's record the past 3 years wouldn't have won the SEC West. He is still winless against Alabama and LSU. That's the problem with comparing anybody else's record to Auburn's. We play 3-4 top 10 teams every year. It's not an easy gig, and one reason why we have to pay a handsome $ to get anyone to coach here.

Mario Cristobal- Would bring our recruiting up as close to UGA/Bama/LSU levels as we can possibly get it. That is huge. I have also questioned Mario's resume and I'm still not sure if he will be able to consistently beat the best teams in the conference, but it raises the floor significantly to bring your talent up to that level. Also, I thought the rumors have always been that MC wanted to get back in the Southeast to coach. Oregon is as good as a gig as you can get out West, but we all know it's not the same as coaching in the SEC. If he really wanted to get back to the SEC, I doubt that whatever offer we could provide could be far enough off from UO's to keep him from making that move.

Matt Campbell- I think he fits the more historical coaching mold at Auburn, except for his lack of ties to the southeast. He is probably going to be able to recruit top 20-15 classes off the Auburn name alone, but he is going to pick 4 and 3 star guys that fit his scheme and coach them up. Probably much closer to a Tommy Tuberville in that regard. He has beat the best teams in the Big12, but could he come and beat the best teams in the SEC? If we don't get him he will end up at Texas or Michigan in the next year or two.

Billy Napier- No idea if he could step in to a big time program and continue winning like he has at ULL, but he is our best chance at finding the next Dabo type. Guy is young, can recruit, learned under some of the best, and full of potential. Could end up being the guy we have for the next 10+ years or could fall flat on his face.

Kevin Steele- Not happening, but the melting for the last 3 days has been entertaining to watch.
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3665 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:41 am to
quote:

Matt Campbell


Is probably my number 1 choice really.

quote:

but he is our best chance at finding the next Dabo type. Guy is young, can recruit, learned under some of the best, and full of potential. Could end up being the guy we have for the next 10+ years or could fall flat on his face.


I really like Napier, but this also describes one other dude that isn't being mentioned all that much....

Venables.
Posted by ATLtiger12
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2013
675 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:50 am to
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Venables.


Venables was my #1 choice as well before Gus was even fired. Surprised I haven't heard his name more. He has been at Clemson for a long time now, similar to Kirby at Bama. Don't know if he is waiting for the right gig or just isn't interested in being a head coach. Problem is though, college football has become an offensive game now. Bringing in a DC still leaves the huge question mark, of who is going to be the OC and can we get the offense moving in the right direction. He could end up being like a Muschamp and never be able to ge the offense figured out.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
16153 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:53 am to
1. get them here: mixed results. Gus has recruited good, but significant gaps on the line of scrimmage.

2. push/develop them to their full potential: please name 8 players who have truly improved during Gus regime.

3. have an effective scheme: Gus has one, but got away from it.

4. make the right decisions on gameday: strangely at times Gus succeeded in this, however, adjustments often took 4 games.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
16153 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:58 am to

2. push/develop them to their full potential

Daniel Thomas would be one.
Surely there are others.
Truesdale.
Others?
On offense?
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22568 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:59 am to
There are reasons Venables has never got a HC job. I have heard at least three rumors. Are they true, I don't know. I guess it could happen, after all someone in the SEC did hire Mike Leach to finally give him a shot. Why didn't Venables go home to K State as HC after old man Snyder finally quit? Good question.
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:00 am to
Probably because the Little Apple is a wasteland
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41385 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:01 am to
Have we discussed NFL possibilities? Greg Roman?


Our problem hasn't been skill players, it's been on the OL and DL. Rewatch the Bama or A&M games and compare their lines to ours. It's fricking embarrassing. Whomever we get has to start recruiting for these areas ASAP.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3602 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:02 am to
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There are reasons Venables has never got a HC job. I have heard at least three rumors. Are they true, I don't know. I guess it could happen, after all someone in the SEC did hire Mike Leach to finally give him a shot. Why didn't Venables go home to K State as HC after old man Snyder finally quit? Good question.



This. I keep bringing this up. There are rumors that have gone around and the sheer fact that he hasn't left yet after what seems like almost 20 years as a high profile DC at both Oklahoma and now Clemson seems to be pretty telling. He's not "waiting for the right job" LMAO. What's he waiting for, Alabama to open up?
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46296 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:03 am to
If you want to improve recruiting, NFL guys aren’t necessarily the best option
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