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Posted on 5/23/24 at 9:50 am
Posted by FayetteNAM
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 9:50 am
Is it for quitters? It seems all of our teams quit in the end. Or is it just this year that it has happened?

Football never started, basketball was incredible then quit, baseball went on a run but it seems the weakness of bats has the season over at the end.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:06 am to
Think it was just a bad year. It happens. Basketba should be better with cal. I don’t expect football to be much better but either it gets better or we get a new coach do win win I guess? Baseball is due at some point dammit bats just went cold they didn’t quit
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:43 am to
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basketball was incredible
Was it?
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:01 am to
Until the SEC season started.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
34199 posts
Posted on 5/23/24 at 12:47 pm to
We lost three games in November and were never ranked again. A mediocre mid major handed us our arse at home, we nearly lost to a terrible Stanford team and then Memphis punked us. Forget excellent, that’s not even acceptable. The season sucked from day one.
This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 12:48 pm
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 12:50 pm to
Maybe it was the Purdue win that had me hyped, and I blocked out all the tragedy
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 2:02 pm to
I think baseball will be fine, DVH doesn't care about the SEC tournament at all. I expect them to make it to Omaha.
Posted by Mason Dixon Swine
West Finger
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 4:15 pm to
The team has looked like arse recently but worse teams have gotten hot after Hoover and won it all. Who knows?
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
3163 posts
Posted on 5/23/24 at 4:33 pm to
Let baseball play out. We're 33-3 at home.

We'll be favored against anyone anywhere with HS starting. Beyond that it'll take luck to win it all but we have as good a chance as anyone.
Posted by JeffLebowski
Member since Feb 2015
2445 posts
Posted on 5/23/24 at 4:35 pm to
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we have as good a chance as anyone.


Dude. We always blow it. This isn’t Major League.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 4:42 pm to
Baseball is annoying. Basically every part of the team is concerning right now but you see that shift wildly in the postseason sometimes. Mississippi State got run ruled twice in the SECT in 2021 before going on to win the championship.

Ultimately I’m not sure we’re capable of getting streaky on offense like you need to these days. Our offensive ceiling has been pretty consistent. And that assumes our recent pitching issues get fixed.
This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 8:03 pm to
I blame Frank Broyles. He wanted all sports to be competitive and started building facilities to make it happen. Without his effort we could be comfortably, or not, sitting in a sunbelt type of conference without the headache of trying to be the best in the country.

Darned him to heck by golly.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 10:04 am to
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I blame Frank Broyles


This but unironically. Joining the SEC killed football. He was warned but his ego was too big and thought Arkansas could compete. 30+ years later and not a single conference championship after we won them all the time in the SWC.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 10:12 am to
Well even the first 20 years In the sec we were competitive, made the sec championship game a few times and were ranked more times than than not. The difference is we’ve hired shitty coach after shitty coach.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 10:22 am to
Arkansas would still struggle had they stayed in the SWC. The last two seasons was 3-8 and 6-6. Then eventually they would be in the Big 12 and win a few conference titles but still have plenty of mediocre seasons. Sometimes beat Texas, get destroyed by Nebraska yearly, lose to Oklahoma most of the time and probably lose to Kansas State most of the time as well.

Arkansas football was trending down when Hatfield left, joining any conference such as the SEC or the soon to be big 12 was an big upgrade in competition compared to the 80s SWC.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
17158 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 10:55 am to
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Arkansas would still struggle had they stayed in the SWC.
Arkansas struggled from 1990-1997 because ford and Crowe sucked. Then from 1998 to 2012 Arkansas only had 3 losing seasons and still won at least 2 conference games every year. But then we hired shite coaches again and the results showed. It’s funny how Arkansas lack of in state talent and small recruiting footprint seems to only affect the coaches that suck. Maybe if we don’t make a shitty hire we won’t have shitty results.
Posted by dammitbert
Member since Aug 2016
656 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 8:01 pm to
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It’s funny how Arkansas lack of in state talent and small recruiting footprint seems to only affect the coaches that suck


Yea you'd think as much as this is pushed as the reason we aren't where we want to be in football, that these coaches that don't succeed and get fired from here would go elsewhere and immediately start winning championships. Look at where John L, Bert, and Chard have done since leaving. The issue ain't the school, fan base, state, facilities, or "recruiting footprint". It's the GOBN and their shite hiring.

Winners don't make excuses for why they can't get the job done. They persevere and find a way to actually get it done. Pointing fingers at ourselves for being poor little Arkansas is not the way to approach it.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
17158 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:40 pm to
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Pointing fingers at ourselves for being poor little Arkansas is not the way to approach it.
and it’s just not fricking true which makes it worse. We were one of the top 25 most ranked teams in the AP poll before 2012. And although there’s a lot of SWC years in there it also included 20 years in the sec, some of which we really struggled because we had bad coaches. But another 15 year run where we did okay. Even though most people would agree the coach we had most of those years wasn’t some coaching savant either. Plus the people who love to talk about how the only reason we won in the SWC was because of how weak the competition was needs to tell me which former SWC conference member would we have consistently beaten the past decade with the coaching staffs we’ve had? Does chad Morris or bert consistently beat tcu? Smu? Baylor? Houston? Obviously not A&M. And if memory serves bert was 1-1 against tcu and Texas tech, the last one embarrassing him in a year where he even won 4 or 5 sec games.
This post was edited on 5/24/24 at 9:43 pm
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25562 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 2:08 pm to
Arkansas would have struggled to beat TCU, SMU, Baylor and Houston.

Arkansas lost plenty of games to helpless SMU back in the 90s. Arkansas lost to them when they won the 95 SEC West title.
This post was edited on 5/25/24 at 2:11 pm
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
17158 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:25 pm to
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Arkansas would have struggled to beat TCU, SMU, Baylor and Houston. Arkansas lost plenty of games to helpless SMU back in the 90s. Arkansas lost to them when they won the 95 SEC West title.
this is my point. Just being in the sec isn’t why we’ve sucked the last 12 years. It’s not the lack of recruiting, it’s the shitty coaches. If it was really just because of the conference we play in being too dominant, we wouldn’t also be losing to San Jose state, western kentucky, north Texas, Rutgers, liberty, Toledo, etc. Not having elite talent doesn’t help but those teams didn’t out talent us, they just didn’t have a buffoon roaming the sidelines making the most important decisions.
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