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Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:06 am to Rizzy
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Tim Watts Nuggett:
Perhaps the most interesting nugget I got this morning was a neutral source, close to the college recruiting scene, reached out to tell me he felt Bama was the odds-on favorite to land Grant Nelson. As we reported this weekend. Nelson is set to go to Alabama. Baylor and Arkansas all this week with a decision soon after. I still think those visits will be the deciding factor but sounds like Oats and staff are set up for this official nicely.
From the moment he said he was coming back and the feedback was "need to see him comfortably shooting outside in a set offense" and we were the first school mentioned that he absolutely wanted to go see..........I mean shite if we can't get that kid here then hell fahr boys what are we even doing.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:12 am to SummerOfGeorge
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This era of roster turnover with our previous 3 coaches would have been an utter disaster.
I actually think Gottfried would have done OK. Not great, but OK. The portal would have mitigated a lot of his general laziness and I think he would have recruited enough talent to make us a program that always looked good on paper, snuck into the tournament every year, and got bounced early because there was little team cohesion and it was just 5 talented guys freelancing. Basically maintaining what we were before he crashed and burned at the end due to the aforementioned laziness. Kind of like a really scummy version of Mike White.
Avery and Grant we'd have been lucky to finish over .500 with because God only knows what random assortment of misfit parts Avery would have brought in, and Grant was never willing to get his hands dirty enough to field competitive teams at a P-6 program in the NIL era.
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 10:14 am
Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:14 am to Robot Santa
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I actually think Gottfried would have done OK. Not great, but OK. The portal would have mitigated a lot of his general laziness and I think he would have recruited enough talent to make us a program that always looked good on paper, snuck into the tournament every year, and got bounced early because there was little team cohesion and it was just 5 talented guys freelancing. Kind of like a really scummy version of Mike White.
That is a good point - we'd sign a "Caleb Love" type player out of the portal every offseason. Every roster we had would be stacked with Top 100 recruits - most of which were just lazy and shitty at their first stop and continued to be lazy and shitty at Alabama. But there'd be 4 games a year (at home, obviously) where you said "holy shite if we get it together we could go to the Final Four!" Then we'd lose at South Carolina by 23 on Wednesday night.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:23 am to Robot Santa
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Grant was never willing to get his hands dirty enough to field competitive teams
Actually kind of felt bad for him in that '20 season when they were the No. 1 overall seed.
Lightning-in-a-bottle year that will probably go down as his best shot, unfortunately (before covid cancelled the NCAAT).
Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:25 am to paperwasp
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Actually kind of felt bad for him in that '20 season when they were the No. 1 overall seed.
Lightning-in-a-bottle year that will probably go down as his best shot, unfortunately (before covid cancelled the NCAAT).
Same - that was a great team. They had a legitimate shot to make a Final Four. He's a great dude, easy to root for him.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:27 am to paperwasp
Oh definitely. Gottfried can frick off, but I genuinely like Avery and Grant as people and hate that it turned out the way it did for them here.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:32 am to Robot Santa
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Gottfried can frick off
Yes he can. Right there on a golf course.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:34 am to paperwasp
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Yes he can. Right there on a golf course.
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 10:35 am
Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:43 am to Rizzy
LET'S GO!!
Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:43 am to BigBird09
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Compare that to Musselman's loaded class this year where Black was the only one that even maintained his draft stock.
And that was only because of his size. He didn't play great this year (good, but but great). Nick Smith dropped because the combination of his injury and this being a very deep class.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:48 am to SummerOfGeorge
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And that doesn't even mention that fact that's ruined one of the best parts of college basketball - the mid-major that has 5 juniors/seniors, runs their stuff to perfection and terrifies big teams. Those don't exist anymore because 3 of those 5 guys leave after their sophomore year for Top 30 programs
It will become that. But this past year, there were more successful mid majors than ever, with FAU and SDSU going deep in the tournament. But I think that's more due to COVID seniors than anything. But it could also be because mid majors are picking off talent from low majors and D2 schools.
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 10:49 am
Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:57 am to CCTider
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It will become that. But this past year, there were more successful mid majors than ever, with FAU and SDSU going deep in the tournament. But I think that's more due to COVID seniors than anything. But it could also be because mid majors are picking off talent from low majors and D2 schools.
Yes that is true on both counts.
I hate saying that's its terrible, because as a guy who played D3 baseball for a season I know that the trickle down effect helps guys who for whatever reason ended up down low but truly can play at the highest level.......whereas before that just didn't happen. On the flip side, Robot's point is very true for fans. You just feel like you have an entirely new roster every year. And that kind of sucks.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:02 am to SummerOfGeorge
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This era of roster turnover with our previous 3 coaches would have been an utter disaster.
I actually think this format would have been Grant's saving grace. Grant's problem wasn't that he couldn't recruit. He just ran a squeaky clean program and didn't have fallback options which constantly bit us in the arse because he continually ended up with the silver medal on top recruits. We entered every season severely short-handed, and with the transfer portal we wouldn't have had those same depth issues. I also believe the NIL system would have benefitted us more than most, because of Grant's unwillingness to break the rules.
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 11:06 am
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:02 am to CCTider
Interesting take on the Nick Smith situation.
In my honest opinion...
Nick Smith is very similar to Caleb Love because they put up a ton of shots and they aren't efficient. I think that's why he's not higher up on draft boards.
In my honest opinion...
Nick Smith is very similar to Caleb Love because they put up a ton of shots and they aren't efficient. I think that's why he's not higher up on draft boards.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:03 am to BigBird09
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I actually think this format would have been Grant's saving grace. Grant's problem wasn't that he couldn't recruit, but that he didn't have fallback options and continually ended up with the silver medal on top recruits. We entered every season severely short-handed, and with the transfer portal we wouldn't have had those same depth issues.
Not a bad point.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:38 am to SummerOfGeorge
Kentucky will probably be going hard after Kaluma now that David Jones just committed to Memphis
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:50 am to alabamabuckeye
Kaluma would be making a big mistake going to Kentucky. He needs to show scouts that he can be a reliable 3&D wing who can handle the ball some. Cal is not a very good coach for 3&D guys.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:57 am to alabamabuckeye
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Kentucky will probably be going hard after Kaluma now that David Jones just committed to Memphis
Kentucky has gone hard after a lot of guys so far this offseason. It hasn't gone real well.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 12:05 pm to alabamabuckeye
Speaking of Gottfried, his arch nemesis Rick Stansbury is now the main recruiter at Memphis, he is the one that just got them David Jones.
You have to think that Stansbusy is an “NIL payment” master as long as he has been dabbling in it.
You have to think that Stansbusy is an “NIL payment” master as long as he has been dabbling in it.
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