Deboer is In over his head.

I don't think so. In addition to the Milroe problem, we seem to have an offensive line problem, a defensive front seven problem, a secondary problem (we get beat deep consistently), a running back problem, a problem with players who cannot control their emotions, a problem with coaches who cannot seem to make in game adjustments. ... It goes on and on.

Sloppy, physically weak, inconsistent, unpoised play all over the field.

You don't know football ignoramus. Plugging you boyfriend Ty into this mess isn't enough of a fix.

I think Milroe is hurt. I think they have overdone the QB runs and neglected the running backs. Something is clearly off

But he claims that the effort and preparation on the part of the players is 100% good. Watch his presser

He really doesn't seem to know what is wrong.

Scary.

If it is true that the players are doing everything right in terms of hard work and prep, then the only thing left is the coaching..

One think is our team is no longer stronger and better conditioned than the opposition. But that's been true for a few years now.

Maybe we should make recruits take the wonderlick test.

No it's not unseen. We saw it with Shula and Dubose. Not sure what the hell your trying to say

This isn't the first loss. It's the second. And the first one was Vanderbilt.

28 points in a half is not good. Why would you even say that.

A defense has to do what it has to do to win. It's not too much to ask that they not give up 24 in a single half. That sucks.

Your one of these black and white guys who can't believe two things can be true at the same time. It's got to be all Milroe.

No. The defense sucks to. This is the same defense that had six stops in 8 quarters and could not stop Vanderbilt at all. That second half defense last night was the same lousy defense.

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An entitled bunch of pussies

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You guys are going to have fricking accept two facts:

1. You don't blame a kid for being spoiled. You blame his parents. Programs winning at all costs is why the players have so much leverage. The players can't make NIL money if no one gives it to them. The players can't transfer if no one accepts them. Players with questionable character and academic standing can't go to college unless admitted.

The fans and coaches hate NIL, the portal, and thug behavior, but don't have the balls to stand on principle and say "NO!" if it means even one loss.

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That’s why Saban left. He was unable to motivate them because NIL and xfer portal rules killed his Process.

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2. Saban and other prominent coaches have done as much to create this insanity as anyone else. Saban took the Alabama job making something like $4,000,000 and left making about $12,000,000. Coordinators are making seven figures now.

I think Bobby Bowden may have been the first $1,000,000 coach sometime in the mid/late '90s.

That's an astronomical increase in salaries and an absurd amount of money to pay someone whose job is basically to teach 100 handpicked students (not given to them.. but handpicked) how to play football (not building skyscrapers or treating cancer) at a high level.

There's no way a coach can rationally make that much money (squeezing every dime out of the system that he can and bolting when there's more money elsewhere) and not expect the players to want their share too. If I were Johnny Heisman sitting in a room with a $10,000,000 HC, a $1,500,000 OC, and a $1,000,000 QB coach - all getting rich off my heroics and the risk of my body and future - and I were supposed to be happy with just a fricking scholarship, I wouldn't like it either.

All the adults want to blame the greedy players, but it's actually the greedy adults who have caused college football to become what it is.

And it's not just the coaches. The administrators are making bank. The TV guys are making big bucks. The public across the country has something very entertaining to watch on Saturday Sports bars are making a lot of money on game day. Vegas makes money on it.

And not just anyone can perform at the level the public wants. No one wants to watch an accounting major with a 5.0 40 run a jailbreak screen. You need a certain caliber of athlete to stoke the fire, and you're not "entitled" to that kind of player.

It was only a matter of time, folks. The movie Blue Chips was released 30 years ago when there wasn't even close to the amount of money in the sport as there is today. And Pete Bell's comments about the 10-year-old kid and his mediocre team from the previous season not being good enough is fricking SPOT ON.