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re: Class of 2018 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: So Long Old Friend Edition

Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:01 am to
Posted by Bamafan15
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:01 am to
@charlie_potter

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Nick Saban said Alabama can take 22 players this recruiting cycle when asked about the new, early signing period.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:24 pm to
Just saw that. Only time I can think of that Saban publicly admitted to Alabama's numbers for a class.
Posted by remaster916
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:35 pm to
With the 2 blueshirts and 1 greyshirt, the number is 25.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:47 pm to
Then tell Saban that.
Posted by remaster916
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 1:18 pm to
I want to see tomorrow, so Saban is right as always.
Posted by remaster916
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 1:26 pm to
So what will the position numbers look like, my guess is the following

1- QB
2- RB
3- Recievers
1- TE
3- OL
4- DL
4- DB
3- LB
1- Punter
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

1- QB
2- RB
3- Recievers
1- TE
3- OL
4- DL
4- DB
3- LB
1- Punter


It's a slow day so I'll add some stuff to this.

If the QB ends up being Tanner McKee you can add another spot to the class because he won't be enrolling until 2020.

I don't think we need 2 running backs either. I'm interested to see if BJ Emmons can get a redshirt for last year due to his foot injury. If he can then our RB depth will be spread out nicely.

Three receivers sounds about right, assuming they are the right ones.

As of right now I don't know if we will sign a TE. There just aren't any guys out there I see us leading for.

Three OL looks good too.

I think we need at least 4 on the DL, possibly 5.

We've signed a bunch of Safeties in the last two classes and we are short on corners. I'd like to see 5 in this class (total).

I'd be okay with just 2 LBers.

I know Bulovas can punt. We may not need a true Punter.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 1:57 pm to
It looks like Gerry Bohanon is Mississippi State bound. He's gotten a bunch of CBs to them this afternoon.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

Alabama coach Nick Saban is in favor of changing the redshirt rules to allow a player to play in four games without losing a year of eligibility, but isn’t necessarily in favor of a proposal that would simply allow all football players five years to play four seasons and do away with redshirting altogether.

Saban made the comments on the SEC Spring Football Teleconference on Monday. Rule changes were the topic of the day, especially after LSU coach Ed Orgeron proclaimed that he was against the new early signing period because: “It’s a war out there, and now you have two.”

Saban also revealed that as of now his staff is planning on signing 22 players next year. Only rarely has Alabama not signed the SEC limit of 25 since he arrived in 2007. The coach usually is extremely tight-lipped about roster numbers.

“Our philosophy is we want to make sure that we get as many players as we can take,” Saban said. “I think it’s 22 this year, or whatever. We want to get 22 players who have good character, who want to commit to the same kinds of things that we do at Alabama to be successful as people, students and as players. I think evaluation is important and the sooner you have to make decisions on these guys the greater the opportunity you have to make mistakes.”

The addition of an early signing period has already been adopted by the NCAA for the recruiting Class of 2018. Specifically, athletes will have 72 hours, Dec. 20-22, to end their recruitment early.

“I truly believe it’s going to call some people’s bluff,” Florida coach and former assistant Jim McElwain said.

Saban agreed with other coaches that the early signing period is accelerating the recruiting process, and could lead to fewer opportunities for “late bloomers,” but said Alabama hasn’t made any significant changes to its evaluation process yet. Beginning next year, prospects can start taking their official visits in April. Previously they couldn’t until their junior year in school was complete.

The American Football Coaches Association is considering the four-game redshirt idea, which would eliminate medical redshirts.

“I would be absolutely in favor of that,” Saban said.

“The number one thing is that it would tremendously help the development of some young players on your team, to be able to look forward to being able to play in some games but not lose the year, and eliminate some of these things where a guy plays for five plays in a game and you have to try and appeal to get his year back because you made a mistake and put him in a game or you thought he would play more and he didn’t. It really, probably, would be a good thing.”


A player on the active roster who might have benefited from such a change is reserve offensive lineman J.C. Hassenhauer, who in 2014 came off the bench against Texas A&M to help at center. He’s now heading into his senior season without having used his redshirt, while playing a position where most players take longer to develop.

Another example of player it might have helped is cornerback Marlon Humphrey, who redshirted his first year in 2014, and then started all 15 games the following year while earning Freshman All-SEC honors.

“I don’t think there’s any question about it,” Saban said. “We would have loved to play some, probably deserved to play some.”

Under the proposal, the four games could be during any part of the season. Currently, a player can’t redshirt if he plays in any game, however he can receive a medical redshirt if he’s competed in fewer than 30 percent of the games in a season or three games, whichever is greater.

As for the five-year proposal, which also is being considered by the AFCA, Saban prefers the four-game proposal, but said he hasn’t given the idea a lot of thought.

“There are so many guys going out early for the draft now, the philosophy of redshirting guys for their developmental purposes has changed quite a bit,” he said. “I don’t think the rule has ever changed with that. So to allow a guy to play to some degree, I don’t know what the right degree is.”

Finally, Saban said he isn’t in favor of changing the SEC rule limiting the ability of players to transfer to another school in the conference. Despite the regulation, Alabama had two players do so last year, wide receiver Chris Black to Missouri and defensive back Maurice Smith to Georgia.

“I don’t think we should have free agency in our league,” he said.


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I like that 4 game redshirt idea.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:11 pm to
quote:


It looks like Gerry Bohanon is Mississippi State bound. He's gotten a bunch of CBs to them this afternoon.


I thought Jalen Mayden was heading to State. Possibly a fall back for Alabama?

But he's announcing next week.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

I thought Jalen Mayden was heading to State. Possibly a fall back for Alabama?

But he's announcing next week.


BOL put out an article called "Making the case: Who will Alabama sign at QB?"

I'll summarize.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:45 pm to
Jack Tuttle

Why he could sign with Alabama: He is expected to camp in Tuscaloosa this summer. Distance isn't a factor because his sister goes to school at UT-Knoxville. If he performs well at camp he'll probably be "The Guy."

Why he won't sign with Alabama: He's committed to Utah so he may have a better relationship with their staff and won't go back on his word.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:46 pm to
Tanner McKee

Why he could sign with Alabama: Saban told him he was priority for the staff.

Why he won't sign with Alabama: He may like the depth chart elsewhere for 2020.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:48 pm to
Joey Gatewood

Why he could sign with Alabama: Auburn wants to take multiple QBs this class and that may cause him to look around and go to a school that is only taking one.

Why he won't sign with Alabama: He's committed to Auburn and has been for 17 months. Apparently he has travel issues as well so he may not ever visit Tuscaloosa.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:49 pm to
Trevor Lawrence

Why he could sign with Alabama: The only thing that's going to make him flip from Clemson is a coaching change.

Why he won't sign with Alabama: See above.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:50 pm to
Justin Fields

Why he could sign with Alabama: Even though he is still committed to Penn State he is looking around.

Why he won't sign with Alabama: If he does flip it looks like Florida and Florida State are more than likely the destination.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:51 pm to
Tyler Shough

Why he could sign with Alabama: He's uncommitted and his alleged front runner, Michigan, just landed another QB last week.

Why he won't sign with Alabama: Michigan wants two QBs in this class.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:52 pm to
Jack West

Why he could sign with Alabama: He won't.

Why he won't sign with Alabama: He's going to Stanford.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:52 pm to
So it looks like we should all be aboard the Jack Tuttle Pain Train.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:53 pm to
I know who I'd like to see Alabama sign. But other than that, I like Shough the most.
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