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Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:32 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Not what I’m saying. I’m saying I bet we do a lot better than Auburn did with their first year coach. You guys have had three losing seasons in a row and have lost to us four times in a row and still have the gall to talk trash. Not to mention, your coach is grossly hypocritical. He’s basically Jimmy Swaggart with buck teeth.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:36 am to Decker
This is all bullshite............you think they'll be honest and tell the truth: "I came here so Saban would get me to the NFL?"
That's the truth.
That's the truth.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:57 am to Decker
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Not what I’m saying
Sure you are, you’re just in denial right now sir. We will be here when reality sets in later.
Still talking shite
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:18 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
No denial. I see us winning between 8-12 games next year. Big range because a lot can happen between now and then. I’m definitely counting on getting #5 in a row against the Boogs.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:30 pm to Decker
Saban said the standard from 2012 era was gone. Players didn’t have the same “killer instinct” now as they did then. The fan base grew entitled…. The standard was eroding before he left. It’s gone now unless DeBoer can prove he’s got what saban had. The ability to demand and get excellence out of 5 stars every year.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 1:46 pm to Decker
Just out of curiosity...if Alabama loses 3-4 games next season....what will the problem be, exactly?
I mean, Alabama fans will have:
1. "the players that want to be there"
2. "The coach that just coached in the playoffs"
3. "The same standards"
Another title coming up in 2024, right? Nothing has changed since the standard is the same.
No troll. Just trying to ask you these questions:
1. Is your head coach(DeBoer) as good as the previous one(Saban)?
2. Is your roster as good as it was last season?
3. Are your assistant coaches as good as last seasons?
4. Will losing all of the analysts help or hinder the program?
I mean, Alabama fans will have:
1. "the players that want to be there"
2. "The coach that just coached in the playoffs"
3. "The same standards"
Another title coming up in 2024, right? Nothing has changed since the standard is the same.
No troll. Just trying to ask you these questions:
1. Is your head coach(DeBoer) as good as the previous one(Saban)?
2. Is your roster as good as it was last season?
3. Are your assistant coaches as good as last seasons?
4. Will losing all of the analysts help or hinder the program?
Posted on 1/18/24 at 2:09 pm to DawgsLife
The standard Saban set is about the process, not the results. Kirby has emulated this; that’s why him going 8-5 his first year (when Richt was 10-3 the year before) was not a time to panic.
You are trolling, but I will answer your questions:
1. No, duh
2. Doubtful, but not finalized
3. Probably better tbh
4. Won’t make a difference
You are trolling, but I will answer your questions:
1. No, duh
2. Doubtful, but not finalized
3. Probably better tbh
4. Won’t make a difference
Posted on 1/18/24 at 2:16 pm to Decker
Like trading in your sports car for a minivan and expecting the same performance.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 2:18 pm to Decker
My biggest take away from this is that Alabama's starting ILB isn't projected to go very high in the draft.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 2:40 pm to Decker
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The standard Saban set is about the process, not the results.
Fair enough. I was talking to another Alabama fan on the recruiting board...so I will ask you what I asked him.
What is the process that everybody else is not doing?
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You are trolling, but I will answer your questions:
1. No, duh
2. Doubtful, but not finalized
3. Probably better tbh
4. Won’t make a difference
I was not trolling. I was merely trying to point out to Alabama fans that they are in a worse position than they were
last year. If the losing the analyst will not make a difference, then Saban was doing a disservice to Alabama.
So, I will leave you with this:
1. Your head coach will not be as good. (Not close in my opinion honestly. Good, but very, very few could even be close to Saban)
2. Your roster will not be as good. For all the bleeding Alabama is doing right now, there simply won't be enough talent out the to replace it with.
3. So, you are saying Saban went out and got worse assistant coaches than was available? Ok.
4. Losing the analyst has to affect the program in some way or Saban would not have had them on the payroll. Somebody is going to have to take up the slack in their jobs. If it is GA's that's fine, but will they do as good a job as seasoned coaches would in analyzing film and charting tendencies? I mean, I imagine most schools d it with GA's, but that doesn't make it as good.
I honestly am trying to have a serious discussion and not trolling. Just because somebody says something bad about your school, it doesn't necessarily mean they are trolling and don't have a legit point.
Look at what I said and see if there are no legitimate points. If there are not discard them and move on. If there are legit points, then maybe this is going to be a bumpier ride than some of you guys believe.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 3:02 pm to DawgsLife
You are either trolling or just a douche. You aren’t having a good faith discussion.
I mean, no shite Alabama is in worse shape. The greatest of all time just retired. No one said Bama is better off. That’s a straw man argument and it’s douchey.
The process isn’t some unique-to-Alabama idea. It’s about working as hard as you can on the things you can control, bettering yourself and letting results take care of themselves, and demanding excellence from yourself and others. The players expressed in the article that things haven’t changed when it comes to that philosophy; disagree with them all you want, but they certainly know better than you.
I think the analyst concept had run its course. Guys like Sark don’t show up every year. The guys that were just let go weren’t going to add anything of significance. That doesn’t mean Saban did a disservice (here you are being a douche again).
Grubb is a much better OC than Rees. Wommack will almost certainly be an improvement over Steele. That’s not a knock on Saban; he’s lost too many great coordinators to count. It’s not like he could just make people work for him. You are being a douche again by not recognizing this.
As for the roster, it certainly looks worse now, but we had a lot of holes this past season. Some position groups could still see an improvement next year. Milroe could progress. It remains to be seen.
I mean, no shite Alabama is in worse shape. The greatest of all time just retired. No one said Bama is better off. That’s a straw man argument and it’s douchey.
The process isn’t some unique-to-Alabama idea. It’s about working as hard as you can on the things you can control, bettering yourself and letting results take care of themselves, and demanding excellence from yourself and others. The players expressed in the article that things haven’t changed when it comes to that philosophy; disagree with them all you want, but they certainly know better than you.
I think the analyst concept had run its course. Guys like Sark don’t show up every year. The guys that were just let go weren’t going to add anything of significance. That doesn’t mean Saban did a disservice (here you are being a douche again).
Grubb is a much better OC than Rees. Wommack will almost certainly be an improvement over Steele. That’s not a knock on Saban; he’s lost too many great coordinators to count. It’s not like he could just make people work for him. You are being a douche again by not recognizing this.
As for the roster, it certainly looks worse now, but we had a lot of holes this past season. Some position groups could still see an improvement next year. Milroe could progress. It remains to be seen.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 3:03 pm to Decker
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Some Players not running from challenge
FIFY
Posted on 1/18/24 at 3:07 pm to Decker
Saban was THE standard, and he's GONE.
Why do you think the players are leaving, and others decomitting. They signed up for Saban, not bama.
Why do you think the players are leaving, and others decomitting. They signed up for Saban, not bama.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 3:41 pm to Decker
Any team that loses to Alabama this year should fire their coaching staff before they load up the buses.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 3:43 pm to Decker
“some” players? Bama will be lucky to have enough players to even field a team.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 3:54 pm to Decker
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You aren’t having a good faith discussion.
So< I can't bring out any negative points about Alabama or it is not a good faith discussion?
quote:I never said somebody said you would be BETTER...but there are plenty who are at least insinuating that it will be business as usual. I don't know if you have been on the Alabama team board, but there is a thread asking what people thought your record would be. Some responses were very practical and felt 3-4 losses would be in the cards, but a lot were saying/predicting 11-0 and 11-2 records. I honestly haven't been to check on the thread in a day or two, so it may have changed.
The greatest of all time just retired. No one said Bama is better off. That’s a straw man argument and it’s douchey.
I am just surprised how many thinking "We are Alabama! We will continue to Roll!" (Yes, I saw that more than once)
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The players expressed in the article that things haven’t changed when it comes to that philosophy; disagree with them all you want, but they certainly know better than you.
People posting that as proof that everything will be the same are kidding themselves. What do you expect the players to say? "We are crashing and burning! The sky is falling! We are going to coast from now on out!"
The true temperature comes from how many players and which players are leaving.
quote:What I said is if there was not value added then Saban was doing the university a disservice. You disagree with that? really? You think money, time and resources should be poured into an outdated and useless aspect of the program that does nothing for the program?
I think the analyst concept had run its course. Guys like Sark don’t show up every year. The guys that were just let go weren’t going to add anything of significance. That doesn’t mean Saban did a disservice (here you are being a douche again).
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Grubb is a much better OC than Rees.
It does seem that way, to me, too. We'll see if it translates to the SEC, but I do agree that Alabama will be in better hands offensively....probably.
Defensively is another story.
quote:You think the transfer portal helped close those holes?
As for the roster, it certainly looks worse now, but we had a lot of holes this past season.
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Milroe could progress. It remains to be seen.
Maybe. but Grubbs offense relied an awful lot on Penix, and Penix was very accurate with his passes. Milroe is not what I would describe as accurate. Maybe he will improve. He'll need to.
Look. It's obvious if I don't agree with you and say "everything is great in Tuscaloosa" you will just say I am a "douche", so there really is not point in continuing to discuss. Alabama has had an historic run the past 17 years, but if something doesn't happen to stop the bleeding you could be in serious trouble.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 3:58 pm to DawgsLife
I think Saban felt the game had gotten away from him. He had not won a legitimate Natty in years. 2020 really doesn’t count. Rather than continue to fall short he decided to pack it in. He will be 73 this year and he was smart to go out when he did. He would have become the next Bobby Bowden and he sure didn’t want to go thru that
Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:03 pm to DawgsLife
I disagree with most of your points and find you disingenuous, which is my least favorite characteristic in a person. My assumption is you are giddy over Saban retiring and the prospect of Georgia not having the giant Alabama mountain to climb each season. I think you are engaging in wishful thinking that also demonstrates a lack of confidence in your team being able to consistently defeat a strong Alabama program. We will see what happens come this fall.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:21 pm to SaturdayNAthens
The game had definitely gotten away from him. He couldn’t compete with a stacked number one ranked Georgia in the SEC championship. It’s weird you guys are so happy he’s gone, seeing how he was washed up and the game had passed him by.
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