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re: Best SEC 90's teams?

Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:05 am to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:05 am to
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Had a 1 point victory over a 4-loss syracuse

It was at Syracuse to start the season and Donovan McNabb was their QB.
Posted by Streetcleaner
gas huffer, TX
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:14 am to
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So were the playoffs a fluke this year


Obviously they were

But this wasn’t:


^^chisel that shite into granite, brother
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:16 am to
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It was at Syracuse to start the season and Donovan McNabb was their QB.


neither one of those negates what I said.
Posted by Bigbens42
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:18 am to
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1998 MSU… meh offensively, # 1 defense in the nation.


Joe Lee Dunn could coach his arse off.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26607 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:19 am to
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The SEC wasn't the conference it is now back then. There was A LOT more parity throughout the league in the 90s, and honestly throughout college football in general.


This is correct. In the 1990s, there were four different SEC champions, including a first-time champion in Florida (yes, I'm aware of 1984).

Arkansas and Mississippi State also represented the West in Atlanta. There were four different SEC West representatives in Atlanta throughout the decade. Auburn had an undefeated season which they were unable to capitalize on due to probation as well.
Posted by BigScoreboard
Member since May 2021
944 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:25 am to
1. Weinke was 1st string injured late in the season
2. Dan Kendra 2nd string hurt in spring practice out for the year
3 Outzen

Actually, Kendra was scheduled to be first team before his injury. He also blew himself up in a home chemistry accident during the summer. So it's stretching things a long way to count him in front of Weinke or Rooster by the fall. I have different articles to prove this, as some people say.
Posted by BigScoreboard
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:28 am to
They have 1 title in the last 70+ years.
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How many did Georgia have as of 2020?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86562 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:35 am to
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How many did Georgia have as of 2020?




"Well yeah besides the 2 natties in the last 3 years...take those away and THEN what do you have!?!?"

Crazy that someone could think that's actually helping them win an argument.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65112 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:41 am to
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neither one of those negates what I said.

It provides context to what you said. You framed it, intentionally, as them playing a less than good team close. That same Syracuse team beat #12 Michigan in Ann Arbor the very next week. They also beat #19 Virginia Tech and #20 Miami. They were a good football team and finished the season ranked.
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
5704 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:43 am to
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1. Alabama 1992 best defense in the last 50 years
2. Florida 1996 elite offense
3. Florida 1995
4. Alabama 1994 1 point from 13-0
5. Tennessee 1998 playing FSU with their 3rd string and barely winning drops them IMO.


Bama's 92 defense was an all-timer...it just took over games because the offense, maybe by design, was as conservative as could be...although with David Palmer and the running backs it wasn't bad...just didn't need to be Fun N Gun with that D.

Nebraska raping 95 Florida at the end keeps them out of the SEC team of the decade conversation...although they probably were better than the 96 version...like 97 UT was probably a better team than 98.

Bama's 99 SEC championship team beat Florida twice...and also inexplicably lost to LA Tech. I wonder if that was the worst loss ever by an eventual SEC champion. So DuBosian lol. That'd be a good post topic.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50723 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:47 am to
Not SEC yet, but we had a decent run in the 90s.

1991: 10-2
1992: 12-1
1993: 10-2
1994: 10-0-1

42-5-1 over a 4-year stretch.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21372 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:49 am to
1989-1990 Arkansas Final Four team vs. 1993-1994 Arkansas NC team.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65112 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:52 am to
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I wonder if that was the worst loss ever by an eventual SEC champion.

In the championship game era probably but that Tech team in 1999 was no joke. Tim Rattay was a baller in college. Their only losses that year were to national champion FSU, #6 at the time A&M, and USCw.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Member since Jun 2004
86562 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:56 am to
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You framed it, intentionally, as them playing a less than good team close.


I framed it as, quite literally, " a 1 point victory over a 4-loss syracuse". That is a black and white fact.

-As for being on the road, let's not pretend Syracuse is known as some difficult place to play.
-As for having Donavan McNabb at QB..sure he's good. It's kind like Ant Edwards playing for UGA though...you can have a stud on the field and that not necessarily mean your TEAM is great .
-You mention some of the wins they had (which several aren't even very impressive) so to provide more "context" let's look a little deeper.

-No issues with celebrating the UM win. That was a solid feather in the cap.
-They lost to a 5-loss NCSt that finished unranked
-Lost to a 4-loss WV that finished unranked.
-They beat VT as you menitoned, who finished ranked 23rd.
-They beat UM as you menitoned, who was unranked with 2 weeks to go and finished ranked 20th.
-Lost by 3 TDs to florida

So their overall resume consists of:
-1 really good solid win
-2 wins that don't completely suck over teams barely finishing ranked
-4 losses, of which only 1 would be a "good loss".

You seemed to think I was saying Syracuse was some scrub (which I wasn't), but you seem to be going the other direction and propping them up to be some kind of huge resume boosting win, which they decidedly were not.
Posted by boston vol
Lexington-Fayette, KY
Member since Sep 2015
5611 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 11:04 am to
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If he was 1st string just how bad was the 3rd string qb that played Tennessee. Thanks for making my point .

Actually Outzen was a tougher matchup for the Tennessee defense because of his ability to run the ball. Weinke was a statue that would have been murdered by the Tennessee front seven by halftime.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65112 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 11:05 am to
So Tennessee beat a ranked team on the road in game 1 of the 1998 season, and that was your evidence how how their season was a fluke. Ok

They also torched #12 UGA in Athens, beat #6 Florida in Gainesville, and lucky play or not beat #16 Arkansas. Undefeated is undefeated. No one is saying they were the best team of the decade. They were one of 3 teams to win a national title in the SEC in the 90s. To say they weren't a top 5 team of the 90s is simply bias because you don't like UT
Posted by boston vol
Lexington-Fayette, KY
Member since Sep 2015
5611 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 11:07 am to
Good post, but the UF game was in Knoxville not Gainesville.
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 11:09 am
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21372 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 11:08 am to
That was a typical 90s Tennessee team that caught a lot of breaks to be champs that year.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86562 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 11:09 am to
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So Tennessee beat a ranked team on the road in game 1 of the 1998 season, and that was your evidence how how their season was a fluke.


you sure love to make up scenarios and put words in poeple';s mouths.

I'll answer you question if you can quote for me where I'v eever used the word fluke. Thanks.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86562 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 11:10 am to
Atually Ill do you a favor and save you the time. Here's my post again:

quote:

All that isn't to say UT sucked that year, I'm not saying that at all. What I am saying is that of all the SEC football teams that played in the decade of the 90s, I'm no so sure they are one of the 5 best.


How you can take that, and somehow get "their season was a fluke", is beyond me.
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