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re: Who has 2 or more P5 OOC Opponents on your Reg Season Sched in 2024?
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:57 pm to Smokeyone
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:57 pm to Smokeyone
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After saying you were not going to count them. But I digress.
I never said anything like that. Was just correcting one of your common and numerous mistakes.
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Looking for the road OOC games in non SEC states… not a damn one. It’s almost like I was right.
South Carolina wasn’t an SEC state until they joined in 1992. You are always wrong, just like here.
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The UT guy I replied to included home games and neutral site games. Neutral site games not played in an SEC state would be allowed. I needed to clarify because UGA generally plays neutral site games in Atlanta.
You don’t set the rules for discussions between two other people.
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:18 pm to Smokeyone
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1970 - we played Clemson/SC/Tech 1971 - @Clemson, @South Carolina, @Tech and Oregon State at Home 1972 - Baylor, NC State, Tech 1973 - Pitt, NCState, @Tech, Clemson 1974 - Oregon State, South Carolina @Clemson, Tech 1975 - Pitt, Clemson, @South Carolina, @Tech
Those players are 70 years old now, but you are desperate for an e victory and baited people into discussing OOC scheduling in the 70’s. If that’s not pathetic, nothing is.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:07 pm to djsdawg
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Those players are 70 years old now, but you are desperate for an e victory and baited people into discussing OOC scheduling in the 70’s. If that’s not pathetic, nothing is.
Over the time frame discussed, they have what appears to be 15 good years from 74 to 97. And then the scheduling goes to crap for the following 25 years.
And we don't really know what is good (I say this to taint the first 15 years for Tennessee). UGA could list A&M as an OOC opponent and someone else will chime in that they had 4 wins that season (as if the schedulers 5 years in advance can control that type of forecasting).
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:23 pm to djsdawg
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Those players are 70 years old now
Ok. I baited no one, I stated the obvious, they attempted to refute them a couldn’t.
This isn’t an E victory or whatever drivel motivates you. Hell many SEC schools don’t travel. The difference is they are not attempting to pretend otherwise. UGA isn’t special, Kentucky has Louisville to match UGAs Tech. LSU use to play Tulane and State had a thing for playing Southern Miss. in state non conference rivalry games are not rare. Again those schools (excluding Kentucky) don’t pretend it’s a big deal. If Bama decides to play UAB their fans are not going to talk out both sides of their mouth simultaneously building UAB up and tearing them down. All I ask is that we be intellectually honest about these things.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:45 pm to Smokeyone
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I stated the obvious,
What exactly is obvious?
Remind us of what you think is so obvious.
It looks like you are talking about 1970’s scheduling.
Is this correct?
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:47 pm to Smokeyone
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many SEC schools don’t travel. The difference is they are not attempting to pretend otherwise. UGA isn’t special, Kentucky has Louisville to match UGAs Tech.
You are clearly confused. No one said anything about traveling to non-sec states. Besides you of course.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:48 pm to djsdawg
Bro you've fallen into the trap of letting this Vawl talk about them playing Pitt and shite back before most of this board was alive.
Hell, Diddly's parents hadn't even met each other yet the last time UTK won a conference title.
Their most remarkable OOC win in recent memory is at a NASCAR track. And that was like 8 HC's ago for them.
Hell, Diddly's parents hadn't even met each other yet the last time UTK won a conference title.
Their most remarkable OOC win in recent memory is at a NASCAR track. And that was like 8 HC's ago for them.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 3:01 am to Murph4HOF
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Bro you've fallen into the trap of letting this Vawl talk about them playing Pitt and shite back before most of this board was alive.
I walked into the room after he already desperately sank to “let’s compare travel distances in 1972” levels.
That’s how far back he had to go to find a victory, but I am trying to get it back on track after his failed distraction attempt.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 2:27 pm to Smokeyone
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in state non conference rivalry games are not rare. Again those schools (excluding Kentucky) don’t pretend it’s a big deal.
Those schools also dont play 2 p5 OOC games on the regular, so they shouldn’t pretend it’s a big deal.
You should be smart enough to recognize that glaring difference, but you never act like it.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 2:38 pm to deeprig9
Yep.
We have Notre Dame and Texass.
We have Notre Dame and Texass.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 3:42 pm to Tridentds
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We have Notre Dame and Texass.
So 1, you have 1.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 3:57 pm to meansonny
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know Tennessee has little dick syndrome for OOC scheduling the past 20 years.
Pretty much.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 3:59 pm to Smokeyone
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believe it’s more of a reflection of UGA poster ignorance than anything else.
You are dumb enough to think this:
1 p5 > 2 p5
Posted on 5/12/24 at 4:21 pm to Smokeyone
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If they want to play tech as a rival by all means do so. Spice up the rest of the OOC games with a trip to Penn St or Iowa, or UCLA. Go somewhere the SEC isn’t.
Like going Tempe in 2008, Stillwater in 2009, Boulder in 2010, at South Bend in 2017, Los Angeles in 2025, Louisville in 2026, Talahassee in 2027, Columbus in 2031 and Raleigh in 2034
as well as having 3 trips to Clemson and neutral site games against UNC, Oregon, Boise State and Clemson not to mention playing at GT every other year.
Oh, and the road games against Oklahoma and Texas that were cancelled due to them joining the SEC and the neutral site game against Virginia that was cancelled due to Covid.
As I said, UGA has THE BEST OOC scheduling of any SEC team since the NCAA went to 12 regular season games. It's not even close.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 4:28 pm to TailbackU
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We haven’t been good for the better part of a decade it’s true but that doesn’t take away the fact that Tech is not exactly a powerhouse on UGA’s schedule.
Tech is one of those teams that averages 7-8 wins a season (they had 7 last year). They had a down 4 years, but they're the equivalent to many other middle of the road P5 teams. They're on par with South Carolina, or Ole Miss in SEC terms. Programs that have some good or bad years but average out at 7-8 wins a year.
Since 2000, GT has 3 less wins than South Carolina and 8 more than Ole Miss. That's what GT is. They have the same number of wins as Tennessee. Most people would view all three of them as decent OOC opponents for a school.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 4:36 pm to Murph4HOF
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Alabama vs. GTU all time: 28-21-3
Georgia vs. GTU all-time: 71-41-5
And your fight song mentions Georgia Tech, but I guess you didn't learn that before you dropped out of Northport High School.
Using GT’s time in the SEC from decades ago to prop up your OOC cupcake is disingenuous, Murph. You’re better than that.
Let’s not stoop to the level of Vandy posters posting their record against Texas. It’s humorously sad when they do it, but it just looks ignorant when you do it.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 4:38 pm to DawginSC
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Tech is one of those teams that averages 7-8 wins a season
Looks it up… they have won 5 or fewer more time than 7 or more the last ten years. 4 seasons of 10 or more since 1990. They are actually averaging 5. Something the last 10 years.
Did you think no one had access to the internet?
Posted on 5/12/24 at 4:44 pm to DawginSC
Look, the reality is quite simple. Due to the SEC expansion in 1992 and having an 11 game schedule, UGA lost the ability to have good OOC schedules until the NCAA went to 12 regular season games.
The reason is UGA (just like EVERY OTHER SEC team) wanted to have at least 6 home games every year. But because UGA had GT every year and a neutral site conference game counting as a home game every other year (the Florida game), this made it hard to get OOC P5 teams to come play UGA without a return trip. So UGA pretty much played GT OOC while UF played FSU, with little else.
Once the NCAA went to 12 game regular seasons though, UGA immediately opened up their scheduling. They started by immediately adding Clemson several times and added home and homes across the nation against teams like Arizona State, Oklahoma State, Colorado and Notre Dame. They also added some neutral site games in Atlanta (mainly to keep OTHER SEC teams from having kickoff classic games in Atlanta which UGA viewed as detrimental to their recruiting). The played Boise State, UNC, Oregon and Clemson in those games (as well as having a game against UVA that was cancelled in the Covid year).
UF added Miami a few times, but due to FSU being a tougher opponent than GT (which is 100% true) they didn't go much beyond playing FSU and occasionally Miami until very recently in their OOC schedule. UGA was much more aggressive in their OOC scheduling.
No other SEC teams regularly went beyond 1 OOC P5 a year once the NCAA went to 12 games either. Some who weren't playing a P5 OOC every year at least started playing one every year, but it was rare until the last couple of seasons for any of the other SEC teams to play more than 1 P5 OOC (the next closest team in scheduling 2 OOC P5's was probably South Carolina).
This is why claims that UGA doesn't schedule well OOC are laughable. UGA literally has the best OOC scheduling since the NCAA went to 12 games a year. And that happened 18 seasons ago. UGA is keeping their edge going forward as more schools in the SEC are looking at 2 OOC P5's. UGA has four years in the next 10 scheduled with THREE P5's OOC.
And they aren't just playing mid-level teams. they have FSU, OSU and Clemson on the schedule (all teams who made the 4-team playoff) and played Oregon and ND OOC in the past few seasons (both teams who made the 4-team playoff). They also had games scheduled against Texas and OU that were cancelled when they joined the SEC (two more teams who made the 4-team playoff).
UGA = best OOC scheduling of any team in the SEC.
The reason is UGA (just like EVERY OTHER SEC team) wanted to have at least 6 home games every year. But because UGA had GT every year and a neutral site conference game counting as a home game every other year (the Florida game), this made it hard to get OOC P5 teams to come play UGA without a return trip. So UGA pretty much played GT OOC while UF played FSU, with little else.
Once the NCAA went to 12 game regular seasons though, UGA immediately opened up their scheduling. They started by immediately adding Clemson several times and added home and homes across the nation against teams like Arizona State, Oklahoma State, Colorado and Notre Dame. They also added some neutral site games in Atlanta (mainly to keep OTHER SEC teams from having kickoff classic games in Atlanta which UGA viewed as detrimental to their recruiting). The played Boise State, UNC, Oregon and Clemson in those games (as well as having a game against UVA that was cancelled in the Covid year).
UF added Miami a few times, but due to FSU being a tougher opponent than GT (which is 100% true) they didn't go much beyond playing FSU and occasionally Miami until very recently in their OOC schedule. UGA was much more aggressive in their OOC scheduling.
No other SEC teams regularly went beyond 1 OOC P5 a year once the NCAA went to 12 games either. Some who weren't playing a P5 OOC every year at least started playing one every year, but it was rare until the last couple of seasons for any of the other SEC teams to play more than 1 P5 OOC (the next closest team in scheduling 2 OOC P5's was probably South Carolina).
This is why claims that UGA doesn't schedule well OOC are laughable. UGA literally has the best OOC scheduling since the NCAA went to 12 games a year. And that happened 18 seasons ago. UGA is keeping their edge going forward as more schools in the SEC are looking at 2 OOC P5's. UGA has four years in the next 10 scheduled with THREE P5's OOC.
And they aren't just playing mid-level teams. they have FSU, OSU and Clemson on the schedule (all teams who made the 4-team playoff) and played Oregon and ND OOC in the past few seasons (both teams who made the 4-team playoff). They also had games scheduled against Texas and OU that were cancelled when they joined the SEC (two more teams who made the 4-team playoff).
UGA = best OOC scheduling of any team in the SEC.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 5:04 pm to Smokeyone
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Looks it up… they have won 5 or fewer more time than 7 or more the last ten years. 4 seasons of 10 or more since 1990. They are actually averaging 5. Something the last 10 years.
Did you think no one had access to the internet?
As I stated (multiple times), GT had a bad coach hire who had 3 straight 3-win seasons followed by a 5-win season (of which he won only 1 of the 5 games before being fired). If you go back 10 years, those 4 years will have a huge impact on their overall performance as they make up 40% of the seasons.
In the other 6 years, GT averaged EXACTLY 7 wins a year. In the 10 prior to that they averaged almost 8. Even with the 4 Collins seasons added in for the last 20, they averaged 6.8 wins a year.(4 wins shy of 7 wins a season over 20 years, so if Collins had just been a 4-win a year coach rather than a 3-win a year coach they'd have been there).
So while you have access to the internet, you apparently don't have access to much knowledge of English (needed to read the posts of others) or math (to calculate GT's average other than the 4 horrible Collins seasons which had been stipulated to be outside the norm).
And GT last year in their first season without collins... won 7 games. Just like their average.
From 2000 on, GT has 165 wins and 139 losses (6.9 wins vs 5.8 losses).
Tennessee is 165-125 (I assume they've had to forfeit some wins). 6.9 wins vs 5.2 losses.
Ole Miss is 157-137 . 6.5 wins vs 5.7 losses.
South Caroina is 168 wins vs 131 losses. (7 wins vs 5.5 losses)
Arkansas has 152 wins vs 146 losses (6.3 wins vs 6.1 losses).
Mizzou has 174 wins and 127 losses (7.3 wins vs 5.3 losses).
These are the SEC teams that GT is similar to this century, even with The 4 horrible Collins years included.
They aren't Vandy (96 wins and 191 losses, 4 wins vs 8 losses). they weren't even at Vandy level for Collins' 4 year tenure, but even with that they've been a team at the Ole Miss/Arkansas/South Carolina level since the turn of the century.. Not the Vandy level. Saying that shows a lack of knowledge about college football.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 5:49 pm to DawginSC
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From 2000 on, GT has 165 wins and 139 losses (6.9 wins vs 5.8 losses). Tennessee is 165-125 (I assume they've had to forfeit some wins). 6.9 wins vs 5.2 losses.
Holy shite.
That guy smokeyone doesn’t even realize it.
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