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re: USA Today releases 'Way Too Early' Preseason Top 25 rankings....8 SEC teams ranked

Posted on 5/8/24 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by MikeHuntVFL
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 12:15 pm to
Keenan Pili

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Posted by swampvol1
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 12:26 pm to
Herring would have been behind him, Carter, Telander and probably Spillman.

We typically only run 2 LBs, so he would more than likely have been pushed to 3rd string.
Posted by swampvol1
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 12:32 pm to
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OU ranked is a joke


They're going to be pretty good. Top 15

But putting them at 8 with a new qb, o-line, OC, and even DC is a little optimistic imo.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:02 pm to
Tennessee lost a lot of experience in the secondary. You lost 8 DB's who were seniors in 2023, one junior and a couple of freshmen. Those included your top six DB tacklers in 2023 (a good proxy for playing time), and 7 of your top 9 DB tacklers from 2022. The replacements, from what I can see, are much less experienced than the guys who left.

I'm sure you'll say (fans normally do) that the new guys are a huge talent upgrade. That remains to be seen but the dropoff in experience is undeniable and will cause some problems. I'm expecting UGA to have some problems due to the 5 (3 starters) that we lost.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 1:09 pm
Posted by BengalShark
Member since Jul 2017
3230 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:04 pm to
Gee where’s UF?

Asking for a friend…

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:07 pm to
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We are very misunderstood by pollsters. We return more key pieces than we lose and I mean experienced pieces that were lost to injury early. I remember one pundit who knocked us down a few for losing a starting LB to the portal but that LB was only starting due to injury and inexperience. I’m not saying we are top 3 or anything like that but the understanding and logic by pundits regarding us as been unsound.


Reminds me of the old saying:

"The good news is we are returning a lot of players from last years team. The bad news is we are returning a lot of players from last years team."

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:07 pm to
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Keenan Pili


Season ending injury last year?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64203 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:19 pm to
Swap LSU and Mizzou. Sure they lose their Heisman winner, but Nussmeirer is a damn good QB and the rest of the roster is better than Mizzou's.

Swap Michigan for Oklahoma. Both are "rebuilding" but the foundation Michigan is rebuilding from is more solid and they are the defending champs, they deserve a spot in the top ten until such time as they don't. Oklahoma hasn't made noise since 2017.

That would make a decent top ten.

I'll allow Ole Miss and Clemson as "spicy" picks but Clemson may be looking at a preseason #10 and by week #2, unranked.




Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:28 pm to
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This will still be a UGA home game, don’t kid yourself. Clemson didn’t travel well last time they played in Atlanta.


also as long as they start Cade they are far from a top 10 team. The dude couldn't even lead an offense to score on SC's bad defense last year
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:30 pm to
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Tennessee lost a lot of experience in the secondary. You lost 8 DB's who were seniors in 2023, one junior and a couple of freshmen. Those included your top six DB tacklers in 2023 (a good proxy for playing time), and 7 of your top 9 DB tacklers from 2022. The replacements, from what I can see, are much less experienced than the guys who left.


Other than Hadden not a single one was worth a damn and Hadden only had half a year. The young ones showed promise but the secondary was notoriously dreadful - bottom of the rankings. IDK how you can get worse given that. Worst case scenario is they're the same as they were minus Hadden which isn't the deal it would be since he was another one we lost early/mid season.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:33 pm to
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"The good news is we are returning a lot of players from last years team. The bad news is we are returning a lot of players from last years team."


In our case that was def. true last season and we all knew it.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
15027 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:33 pm to
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Auburn plays 4 of the Preseason Top 9 and this is our easiest schedule in a couple decades.

My thoughts on Auburn using these rankings:

@ #1 Georgia and @ #5 Bama are likely losses just being honest

4 OOC games, Vandy and Arkansas (all at home) should be fairly winnable.

That puts us at 6-2 with the four other games being:

#8 Oklahoma at home
#9 Missouri on the road
Texas A&M at home
Kentucky on the road

I think 8-4 is very doable, and that would be a step in the right direction following the last 3 seasons.

Did you not forget that Freeze has his team lose a game or two that should have won?
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3054 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 2:11 pm to
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Other than Hadden not a single one was worth a damn and Hadden only had half a year. The young ones showed promise but the secondary was notoriously dreadful - bottom of the rankings. IDK how you can get worse given that. Worst case scenario is they're the same as they were minus Hadden which isn't the deal it would be since he was another one we lost early/mid season.


If you want to be dishonest with yourself, that's fine, but it won't change the results. Best case scenario is the new guys are more talented and much less experienced. Worst case scenario is they're less talented and much less experienced.

I know you're struggling to admit that latter part, but I have a good memory and I can remember when Tennessee fans were really excited about guys like Jaylen McCullough (The Tank), Warren Burrell (cover guy), Doneiko Slaughter, Tamarion McDonald, Brandon Turnage, Kamal Hadden, etc. Now, several years later, you say none were worth a damn except Hadden, who was heavily criticized like the others until the 2023 season. This is the eternal cycle of fan rationalization; the new guys are better than the old guys, never mind that the old guys were supposed to be better than the older guys. In reality, the only given is that college players generally improve with experience.

I'm not even saying your secondary will be worse than 2023, just noting that it's quite possible when you have a complete turnover and lots of inexperience.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 2:18 pm
Posted by rtr23242526
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 2:31 pm to
I like it..
Win a championship.
Boom
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42688 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:21 pm to
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If you want to be dishonest with yourself, that's fine


You are really used to the fakes. Or maybe you’re just a dumbass.
Posted by MikeHuntVFL
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Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:45 pm to
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Season ending injury last year?


Yep, first game I think
Posted by BoomerFNSooner
Choctaw
Member since Jul 2021
200 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:46 pm to
I am surprised we are ranked that high TBH. If Arnold makes a giant leap then we will have a shot to win 10-11 games. But he will have to make a giant leap. We could have our best team in 3 years and still only win 7 or 8 with that schedule.
Posted by MikeHuntVFL
VOLS
Member since Oct 2021
800 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:54 pm to
I’ll give Heupel a heads up re: the concern or internet user wdhalgren
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3054 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:54 pm to
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I’ll give Heupel a heads up re: the concern or internet user wdhalgren


It's more of an observation than a concern. And I'm flattered, but Heupel already knows about his inexperienced secondary.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 4:59 pm
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
12599 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 5:20 pm to
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7. Notre Dame

Death, taxes, and the media shoe horning Notre Dame into the top 10 for no reason.
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