One notable thing I noticed is we only have 11 million in dead money for Michael Thomas and 3 million for Jameis. Not terrible, considering how much dead money we typically carry each year. Ram has 35 million in dead money, but his cap number is only 12 million this season, so you are looking at two hits of 11.5 million the next two seasons when he officially retires.

Assuming we move off of Kamara, Hill and Lattimore before next offseason, your biggest cap hits for older players will be Cam Jordan (about 24 million), Derek Carr (50 million), Demario Davis (17 million) and Tyrann Mathieu (12 million).

Depending on what they do with them, that would be the end of our soft reboot.

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Posted by saints5021

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:20 am to saints5021

Another thing to look at is the Post June 1st cut numbers of our older expensive players, assuming they get cut:

Kamara - 7.8 million dead, 10.6 million cap savings
Taysom - 7.2 million dead, 8.5 million cap savings
Lattimore - 22.6 million dead, - 8 million cap savings

And here are their numbers if they get traded after June 1st:

Kamara - 6.8 million dead, 11.6 million cap savings
Taysom - 5.7 million dead, 10 million cap savings
Lattimore - 10.6 million dead, 3.9 million cap savings

No one will trade for Kamara and Taysom, and they are both still productive, so I imagine they will play out their current contracts. I would look for Loomis to try to lock up Adebo before June and then look to move Lattimore in a trade.

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Posted by Weekend Warrior79

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:27 am to saints5021

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we only have 11 million in dead money for Michael Thomas and 3 million for Jameis.

Check back after 6/01, these were both designated as post 6/01 cuts, so those numbers for 2024 will be adjusted. If you click on the 2025 tab you will see MT already accounts for $9M & Winston $7M for next year. I do not recall what the final impact to the 2024 cap will be.

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Assuming we move off of Kamara, Hill and Lattimore before next offseason,

I don't think Kamara & Hill are going anywhere. It could very well be coach speak, but Kubiak has already gushed at how he is looking forward to working with Hill. And I am sure he would like to put Kamara in that McCaffrey type role.

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your biggest cap hits for older players will be Cam Jordan (about 24 million), Derek Carr (50 million), Demario Davis (17 million) and Tyrann Mathieu (12 million).

You already know Carr is getting extended. If you were holding out hope they would figure out a way not to touch his contract, might as well move past that now

I can only hope they don't just keep restructuring Demario (35) & Tyrann (32) and they actually work out an extension. I realize they are older and you eventually need to move on, but IMO one of the things that has buried this team's cap is they keep adding void year on the back end. Then suddenly their contract is done and we now have this huge cap hit about to land on the books AND we need to resign or replace the player. So, you are basically getting nailed with 2 huge hits at once. Extend some of these bigger contracts to help spread these costs while they are still on the roster; and work on the truly bad contracts and/or those about to retire. If we weren't in the cap hell we are now, you could look to let the contract play out and take the his. The problem is over the next 2 seasons*, damn near every one of these big contracts will be coming off the books at once

*In 2026, there are only 15 players currently on the team (not counting the new rookies) that have a salary; including Latt & Ram that we all expect to be traded and retired, respectively, over the next year. FYI, only 4 players in 2027

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Posted by NewOrleansBlend

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Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:40 am to saints5021