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re: Pelicans are not expected to offer BI extension this offseason, moving in new direction
Posted on 5/5/24 at 11:56 pm to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 5/5/24 at 11:56 pm to TeddyPadillac
It’s really not a bad trade. It gives us a center that provides rim protection and vertical spacing. It also gives us a point guard that’s willing to shoot 3’s, is clutch and defends.
We get rid of Ingram (who isn’t a true point, doesn’t mesh totally with Zion, and generally refuses to shoot 3’s). Losing Herb hurts, but it’s probably an overall defensive upgrade by adding Murray and Allen. Dyson might get more minutes as well if necessary.
Getting pick 10 instead of 21 is a nice bonus. It’s a terrible draft. Picking 11 spots earlier absolutely helps though. We’d have to get extremely lucky to get a player at 21. At 10, we have a chance to either get one or flip the pick to another team that likes a particular prospect.or it could help us move off of CJ. Think the Steven Adams and 10th pick for Jonas and 17th pick deal structure from a few years ago.
It’s a solid deal. Not every deal is going to be a fleece and even when Griffin did Fleece, he kind of squandered half of the AD haul on various bullshite and bad draft decisions. Getting Allen and Murray takes some of that flexibility/decision making away from Griffin, which is probably a good thing. We get 2 good players instead of 2 good assets that he squanders (IE: garland vs Hayes, Kira vs Maxey, RJ Hampton/Steven Adams shenanigans vs D Bane, Etc).
We get rid of Ingram (who isn’t a true point, doesn’t mesh totally with Zion, and generally refuses to shoot 3’s). Losing Herb hurts, but it’s probably an overall defensive upgrade by adding Murray and Allen. Dyson might get more minutes as well if necessary.
Getting pick 10 instead of 21 is a nice bonus. It’s a terrible draft. Picking 11 spots earlier absolutely helps though. We’d have to get extremely lucky to get a player at 21. At 10, we have a chance to either get one or flip the pick to another team that likes a particular prospect.or it could help us move off of CJ. Think the Steven Adams and 10th pick for Jonas and 17th pick deal structure from a few years ago.
It’s a solid deal. Not every deal is going to be a fleece and even when Griffin did Fleece, he kind of squandered half of the AD haul on various bullshite and bad draft decisions. Getting Allen and Murray takes some of that flexibility/decision making away from Griffin, which is probably a good thing. We get 2 good players instead of 2 good assets that he squanders (IE: garland vs Hayes, Kira vs Maxey, RJ Hampton/Steven Adams shenanigans vs D Bane, Etc).
Posted on 5/6/24 at 7:05 am to 3PieceSpicy
Yeah you aren’t talking me into a deal where Bi and Herb go out for Allen and Murray and I think it’s a good trade. BI is worth more than Murray, regardless of how much all of you hate him and think he’s worthless, and Herb is worth more than Allen.
They could be trading us a top 5 pick and I wouldn’t care about it. That doesn’t make up the fact that we traded away the two best players for me.
Herb doesn’t go out under any circumstance. They are welcome to have CJ instead.
They could be trading us a top 5 pick and I wouldn’t care about it. That doesn’t make up the fact that we traded away the two best players for me.
Herb doesn’t go out under any circumstance. They are welcome to have CJ instead.
This post was edited on 5/6/24 at 7:06 am
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