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re: Former Bama qbs who could have won that game tonight.

Posted on 1/1/24 at 9:27 pm to
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5802 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 9:27 pm to
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He wouldve been sacked 15 times Playing behind this OL.


Diagnosing defense happens PREsnap. The problem with Milroe is that he's reactive to what the defense does postsnap. He has ZERO idea what the defense is doing presnap. This is the reason he gets sacked so much. Not the O-line. Pass rush can be neutralized in many ways. But you have to have an adaptable qb. Milroe isn't that guy. He's soft, too. I didn't 100% realize that until today.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 1/1/24 at 9:27 pm to
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If you’re talkin second half sure, but there’s not a QB short of Mike Vick who could’ve survived with the pressure Milroe got first half. That was horrendous OL play


Michigan wouldn’t have blitzed as much if they were scared of our QB taking advantage. The OL looked worse than it was due to us not having a QB that can read blitzes and hit the open guy. He trusts his legs too much and tried to escape way too many times rather than using his arm to beat the blitz. 1st half would have looked a lot different with Tua or even Mac at QB.
Posted by Kashmir
Member since Dec 2014
7824 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 9:29 pm to
It would be easier to name those who wouldn’t.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26993 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 9:32 pm to
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Former Bama qbs who could have won that game tonight. by


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Everyone from McElroy through Bryce


None of them with that OL.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26993 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 9:34 pm to
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If Milroe had the O Line that any of our other QBs had we probably would have won.


Fact.

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Any other C off those teams we wouldve won.



Also a fact.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5802 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 9:35 pm to
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Michigan wouldn’t have blitzed as much if they were scared of our QB taking advantage. The OL looked worse than it was due to us not having a QB that can read blitzes and hit the open guy. He trusts his legs too much and tried to escape way too many times rather than using his arm to beat the blitz. 1st half would have looked a lot different with Tua or even Mac at QB.


While I agree with every word of this, the OC didn't help at all. BAMA was roasting the edges.
Did we run the pop-pass to Bond or Law at all? Did we try a wheel route all game? Where did the quick slant go?
Where, for the love of Christ, is Niblack? I know they aren't popular anymore, but why not try a screen pass to a rb? Something to loosen that fricking relentless pass rush in the 1st half. Rees did nothing to help Milroe. The only success BAMA had in the 2nd half was because Michigan adjusted their defense foolishly.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
2645 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 9:47 pm to
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While I agree with every word of this, the OC didn't help at all.


Completely agree. It’s like we called the first half thinking Milroe was good at reading defenses.

With a defense as good as Michigan’s, you only have to guess right once in a drive to put a team behind the sticks and shut a drive down. It was way too easy to guess what we were going to do in the first half and Milroe couldn’t “take what the defense was giving him.” They could just run blitz and adjust to getting to the QB if he didn’t hand it off.

No slants, quick outs, hot routes to the TE, etc. We finally tried a WR screen but our OL is too slow to block guys downfield.

All that said, we still would have won the game without the bad snaps or Milroe fumble (or defense picks off one of the tipped passes on the last drive). Heartbreaking
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
3301 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 9:58 pm to
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If Milroe couldnt get away from that rush I dont think many of our other qbs could have.



I think this is a misconception. Milroe is fast... The fastest 100m time of any QB we have had but that doesn't make him elusive. But also those guys could hit hot routes... Guys were able hit crossing /quick slants in voided areas..before the pressure got to them. Now is that a Rees issue or a Jalen issue? but to me that seems like a standard if X do Y thing and as such a Milroe issue
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
17940 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:09 pm to
Did you not see the replays? When Milroe was getting sacked the wrs hadnt even turned around yet they were getting there so fast. We have to give some credit to Michigans pass rush, its the best we had played against in a long time.
This post was edited on 1/1/24 at 10:10 pm
Posted by chefrossi
Member since Jan 2022
206 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:11 pm to
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Minus Blake sims


Are you serious? Blake Sims is a lot better than Milroe, and Sims isn’t great.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5802 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:16 pm to
Truth. It blows my mind that some of these posters think that the reason Ewers and Penix are so much better than Milroe is because their o-line is so much better than BAMA's. It's borderline retarded.

Penix is playing out of his mind BTW. That last td was a fricking laser.
This post was edited on 1/1/24 at 10:18 pm
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