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Arthur Smith is a dawg

Posted on 5/10/22 at 6:12 pm
Posted by retooc
Freeport, FL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/10/22 at 6:12 pm
Guy is all business.

The guy seems like he'd be terrible to be around.

Probably going to be a helluva football coach!

This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 6:57 pm
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:45 pm to
He certainly has a different demeanor than Coach Bro.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:09 am to
I like that he's come out and said that there are no entitlements with the Falcons players this year. There will be competition amongst even the penciled in "starters" during pre-season this year. It's about time.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:17 am to
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I like that he's come out and said that there are no entitlements with the Falcons players this year


I think this is a big reason Julio was traded. Dimitroff and Quinn coddled and babied him to the point where he never practiced and no one cared.

I don't think Arthur Smith is the type to tolerate that kind of bullshite.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:43 am to
The Falcons really came out on top on that Julio trade after all. I don't even think Julio is signed with a team and pretty sure his career is over.
Posted by DirtyDawg
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:22 pm to
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The Falcons really came out on top on that Julio trade after all. I don't even think Julio is signed with a team and pretty sure his career is over.




So much better to cut ties with a player a year too soon than a year too late. Ole Billy B in NE has made a nice career out of pulling head over heart moves like that.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 5/13/22 at 8:33 am to
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Coach Bro


frick that dude.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 5/13/22 at 11:40 am to
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So much better to cut ties with a player a year too soon than a year too late. Ole Billy B in NE has made a nice career out of pulling head over heart moves like that.


Hindsight is 20/20 but Julio should have been traded the day he came in whining about his contract.
Posted by hiltacular
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/13/22 at 12:33 pm to
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So much better to cut ties with a player a year too soon than a year too late. Ole Billy B in NE has made a nice career out of pulling head over heart moves like that.


You just don't pay WRs/RBs the massive contracts, period. If you can just convince yourself to never pay either of these groups no matter who the player is, you are already well ahead of half the league.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 5/13/22 at 1:14 pm to
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You just don't pay WRs/RBs the massive contracts, period. If you can just convince yourself to never pay either of these groups no matter who the player is, you are already well ahead of half the league.


It'll get really interesting when teams finally learn that giving QBs these ungodly salaries basically closes your contention window. There is a direct correlation between QB salaries and Super Bowl wins since the rookie wage scale was introduced.
Posted by retooc
Freeport, FL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/13/22 at 1:18 pm to
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It'll get really interesting when teams finally learn that giving QBs these ungodly salaries basically closes your contention window. There is a direct correlation between QB salaries and Super Bowl wins since the rookie wage scale was introduced.


Agree.

As previous poster said, it's basically all playnaking positions at this point. Try to get value free agents and rookie contracts at QB, WR, RB.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 5/13/22 at 1:27 pm to
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As previous poster said, it's basically all playnaking positions at this point. Try to get value free agents and rookie contracts at QB, WR, RB.


I'd never give a RB a second contract. I'd never pay a WR more than $20M/year. If I was Arizona and Kyler Murray threatened to hold out unless he gets $45M/year, I'd sell to the highest bidder.

Unless a QB is on that Rodgers/Mahomes/Allen level (none of who have Super Bowl wins since they got their big paydays, BTW), I wouldn't even consider a big money extension.

Paying average QBs elite money is the single fastest way to close a contention window in the NFL.
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15539 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 3:45 pm to
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You just don't pay WRs/RBs the massive contracts, period.



Yup, dime a dozen to replace them with a serviceable player.

Just key to always draft those positions well and use those 4-5 years under a more team friendly deal.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 9:56 am to
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Yup, dime a dozen to replace them with a serviceable player.

Just key to always draft those positions well and use those 4-5 years under a more team friendly deal.


The falcons had done such a shitty job in the past of developing strength and depth on both lines of scrimmage that they've been forced to overcompensate by relying on pricey skill players. I'm looking forward to a regime that can hopefully establish the lines so that we can then move towards paying less for the "serviceable" skill players without seeing a severe drop in prodution.

Posted by DirtyDawg
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 6:34 pm to
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The falcons had done such a shitty job in the past of developing strength and depth on both lines of scrimmage that they've been forced to overcompensate by relying on pricey skill players.



That's why I nearly had a stroke with the Drake selection.

I can't recall who was available on the OL/DL at that moment, so I can't truly gauge the grade on that pick, but I physically shut down from the classic "Draft a WR Top 10" move.

The outside to inside draft strategy needs to DIAF
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 6:35 pm
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29269 posts
Posted on 5/20/22 at 7:46 am to
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Hindsight is 20/20 but Julio should have been traded the day he came in whining about his contract.




Which time?
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 8:43 am to
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I can't recall who was available on the OL/DL at that moment


Jordan Davis was sitting there waiting to fix the run defense problems that the Falcons have had for the last 25 years. Instead they drafted a WR who isn't much faster than Davis.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
35093 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 3:10 pm to
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Unless a QB is on that Rodgers/Mahomes/Allen level (none of who have Super Bowl wins since they got their big paydays, BTW), I wouldn't even consider a big money extension.




You will never win consistently w/this mindset.

You get your franchise QB, you keep your franchise QB. Period.

You couldn't be my GM.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:34 am to
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You get your franchise QB, you keep your franchise QB. Period.


This is an archaic way of thinking that has cost many GMs and coaches their jobs and has closed way too many championship windows. The term franchise QB is thrown around way, way, way too loosely. Like it or not, there is damn near a direct correlation between QB salaries and Super Bowl wins since the rookie wage scale was introduced. That correlation is that none of the high paid QBs are winning it.

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You couldn't be my GM.


If you're an owner who wants to hand out fully guaranteed contracts to someone like Kirk Cousins, I wouldn't want to be your GM. In fact, I'd leave your office laughing as you have just signed your team to 8-8/9-7 hell for the foreseeable future. If that's the "consistency" you're looking for, then you can have it.

The fastest way to football mediocrity is to pay a decent QB like an elite one. Once you pay big bucks to the QB, other key parts of your roster will go elsewhere. At that point, the QB needs to be good enough to carry a team by himself. Most of them aren't.

Fun thought exercise: I'm going to pose two scenarios and you tell me which one you think is better. This will probably explain why our lines of thinking are different. Both scenarios will be hypothetical 10 year windows for a franchise that has never before won a Super Bowl.

Scenario 1: In 10 years, you have 8 playoff appearances, 4 conference championship appearances, 2 Super Bowl appearances and lose them both.

Scenario 2: In 10 years, you have 8 seasons with a losing record, 2 playoff appearances resulting in one loss in the wild card round and a Super Bowl win.

I know my answer. I suspect I know yours too and I think they're different.
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 10:41 am
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29269 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 4:38 pm to
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I know my answer. I suspect I know yours too and I think they're different.


When is the Super Bowl win in that 10 year timeframe?
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