re: Top 3 Non SEC/B1G programs of all time (excl Notre Dame) ?

1. USC

11 national titles.....Trojans lead the head-to-head series vs. every top 10 winningest programs of all time except two (Notre Dame and Alabama), more than any other program ranked in the top 10.....greatest fight song in the country, being the only college fight song used in WWII to rally the troops to victory in the Pacific Theatre....have won more Rose Bowl games than any other program.....have had more movie stars play for the Trojans than any other program....Trojan Marching Band has won more Grammy Awards than any other college marching band.....USC Song Girls are the greatest -- and most glamorous -- college cheering group in the nation! NEED I SAY MORE???? I could, but I won't. :)

2. Notre Shame -- but, we're not counting them.

3. Michigan
4. Ohio State

Edit: Ohhhhh....NOT in the Big 10. Okeedokey............

Wow, this is pretty hard.......

I'll go with.......

1. Clemson, Florida State, Miami