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Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:27 am to mrbroker
Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:27 am to mrbroker
In the unlikely scenario that a game went into a 3rd overtime 0-0, a more “traditional” 1 point safety could occur. Ie team on offense throws a pick on the try, the defender tries to run it out, retreats into the end zone and is tackled. That has occurred a few times. Team on offense would be awarded a safety and win the game 1-0. Unlikely, but not impossible.
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:30 am to BornAndRaised_LA
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The longest safety ever (of the 2-pt variety) is 60 yards. Safe to say that we’ll never see the 1-pt version.
aTm has already seen it against Texas.
A&M blocks the PAT, then possesses the ball outside the endzone, then fumbles into the endzone, where Texas recovers. 1 point safety. Yes, it's true...it's impossible to have a 1-0 game. But you could have a 6-1 game.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:30 am to borotiger
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Isn't blocking an extra point kick and running it back one point?
No. 2 points.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:34 am to SuperOcean
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So..2 to 0 is the lowest possible winning score in a football game.... Though 1 pt is possible to be scored
This is correct.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:37 am to AUstar
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2) The team on offense fumbles the ball forward into opponents endzone. If this happens AND the defense knocks the ball out of bounds, then the offense would be awarded 1 point.
No. You have to establish possession outside the endzone in order to have a safety. Merely knocking the ball out of the endzone doesn't give the offense a safety.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:39 am to AUstar
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Thank you OP for having me spend half an hour researching this
Needed to spend more time.
#2 isn't a safety.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:39 am to AUstar
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See my post just above. The only way a team can finish a game with 1 point is if the game ends 1-0. In other words, if you finish with 1 point, you always win the game.
I don't think that's correct. A team can finish (not win) with 1 point if the other team scores a TD and the team playing defense during the XP try converts a 1 point safety, resulting in a 6-1 score.
That can happen in multiple unlikely ways. Remember the ball has to go 97 yards backwards during the extra point but not as a 2 point defensive return. Something weird needs to happen for that to occur. The most likely scenario is this:
Team A scores a TD to go up 6-0.
Team B blocks the extra point or intercepts a 2 point conversion and races towards the opposite endzone for what would ordinarily give them 2 points.
But a player from Team A chases down the returner for Team B and strips the ball on the opposite 5 yard line and the fumbled ball rolls out of the endzone.
That's a 1 point safety. Final score 6-1.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:45 am to AUstar
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2) The team on offense fumbles the ball forward into opponents endzone. If this happens AND the defense knocks the ball out of bounds, then the offense would be awarded 1 point.
Would t the defense have to control the ball in order for it to be a safety against them? Doesn’t seem like it would go against the defense for just knocking it out of bounds if they never were in possession
Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:55 am to Rebbedup
impossible. lowest possible score is 2 pt by either safety or PAT turnover that is returned to the opposite end zone.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:23 am to Rebbedup
A&M and Texas had a one point safety in their game several years ago.
I think it was go for kick, fumble snap, scramble, guy retreats to the end zone and is downed.
So it was a one point safety
I think it was go for kick, fumble snap, scramble, guy retreats to the end zone and is downed.
So it was a one point safety
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:34 am to jchamil
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2) The team on offense fumbles the ball forward into opponents endzone. If this happens AND the defense knocks the ball out of bounds, then the offense would be awarded 1 point.
Would t the defense have to control the ball in order for it to be a safety against them? Doesn’t seem like it would go against the defense for just knocking it out of bounds if they never were in possession
You are correct. He needed to spend more time researching.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:35 am to BamaGradinTn
This topic comes up once every few years. Lots of posters are surprised to find out there is such a thing as a one point safety. It's probably the rarest play in football.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 12:29 pm to Rebbedup
Most likely scenario would be a Roy "Wrong Way" Riegels type play where an offensive player gets real confused and runs the ball back all the way - the wrong way.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 12:32 pm to BamaGradinTn
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It's probably the rarest play in football.
That and the fair catch, free kick.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 12:37 pm to borotiger
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Nope, I still don't get it. A touchdown would have still occurred.
Defense has 0 pts. Offense attempts extra point and has to incur a 100 yd loss and get tackled in its own EZ.
About the only way I see this happening is a scoop and score by the defense and the ball carrier fumbles the ball into the EZ on the other end of the field and ball is covered by the offense in that EZ…
Posted on 12/17/23 at 12:48 pm to GetmorewithLes
I don't know of an occasion where it's happened for the defense to score, but it happened in the 2013 Fiesta Bowl.
K State blocked an extra pt, recovered in their end zone, and attempted to lateral and advance the ball but was tackled. Oregon was awarded 1 pt for the safety.
K State blocked an extra pt, recovered in their end zone, and attempted to lateral and advance the ball but was tackled. Oregon was awarded 1 pt for the safety.
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