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re: ESPN releases their insane SP+ rankings
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:04 pm to skrayper
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:04 pm to skrayper
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#17 LSU - I can only presume that loss to FSU is an albatross around LSU's neck - not like this ranking matters worth a damn anyway, but there you go.
that and getting annihilated at home vs UT.
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:07 pm to The Albatross
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ETA: Google is still king. SP+ has LSU ranked behind OSU in 2019.
If your ranking system sees anyone other than LSU as the best team in 2019 then you need to tweak your system /thread
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:10 pm to skrayper
It's right. Who would be favored over Bama except Georgia and maybe Ohio St?
And I DO NOT want Bama in the playoffs even if a field of 12.
And I DO NOT want Bama in the playoffs even if a field of 12.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:12 pm to skrayper
We don’t deserve to be in the playoffs. We’re in consolation bowl mode and of course beat Auburn and hope for a top 5 finish. That’s what we’re playing for.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:13 pm to The Albatross
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For 2019, they concluded that LSU was the second best team behind OSU. That’s all I need to know.
Can you imagine if lsu had played that osu team? Might have scored 50+. And them having a mobile quarterback would have been their doom. Fields would have been on the ground the whole time.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:18 pm to jnethe1
I wish we had played 16 games that year just so no one could say anything. Like after the natty, just go play the Burrow bowl against OSU so there would have been no room for idiocy.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:19 pm to KingOfTheWorld
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We don’t deserve to be in the playoffs. We’re in consolation bowl mode and of course beat Auburn and hope for a top 5 finish. That’s what we’re playing for.
I was not trying to make that assertion, and I don't think ESPN was either.
SP+ are really just good for something to talk about.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:21 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I think that was FPI, right?
Yeah, and I think they were actually #3
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:23 pm to The Albatross
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I wish we had played 16 games that year just so no one could say anything. Like after the natty, just go play the Burrow bowl against OSU so there would have been no room for idiocy.
It happens every year; you just learn to deal with it.
In 1992 Alabama trounced an undefeated Miami team 34-13 (giving up only 6 points on defense) in route to an undefeated season and national championship.
Of course, some folks were saying that Florida State would have beaten Alabama in that game (mostly based on one game where Florida State beat Florida more soundly than Alabama did in the SECCG).
Someone will ALWAYS say "Team X that you didn't play could have beaten you!"
Water off a duck's back, my friend.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:24 pm to skrayper
Yeah, but that would’ve been the team and year to do it. No worries though, it’s 
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:25 pm to skrayper
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#17 LSU
Seems too high.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:26 pm to skrayper
Any poll that has LSU at 17, Texas at 8, and Oklahoma at 18 can be immediately dismissed.
It's the kind of result that should call into question the entire algorithm.
It's the kind of result that should call into question the entire algorithm.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:29 pm to lsufball19
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Yeah, and I think they were actually #3
2019 FPI was weird
LSU was #3, behind OSU and Clemson, with Alabama at #4
The efficiencies, OTOH, had LSU #2 - LINK
OSU's defense was ranked much more efficient than LSU's while their offense was just a bit below LSU's. That being said Ohio State's defense digressed near the end of the year just as LSU's was getting better. OSU had 7 straight games of giving up 10 points or less; 4 of their last 5 they gave up 21 or more.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:29 pm to LSU Coyote
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That SP+ ranking never makes sense.
These aren't based on resumes, they're not really rankings. They're predictors. Despite Bama's 2 losses, both of them were on the last play of the game. Neutral field they'd still predict Bama to win against anyone other than UGA, OSU, and UM. Or rather Bama should be favored over anyone other than those 3, and yes that includes if they had a rematch with LSU or Tennessee.
Josh Pate had a good suggestion about how these power ratings shouldn't decide the actual playoff rankings but it should factor into strength of schedule.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:29 pm to skrayper
Don't worry boys the SOG+ rankings will be out shortly
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:31 pm to WaterLink
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Josh Pate had a good suggestion about how these power ratings shouldn't decide the actual playoff rankings but it should factor into strength of schedule.
Absolutely. They should not decide the playoffs - but they should be included to determine things like Strength of Record, which is a great metric that basically just weighs your wins and losses vs who you played.
This just says "how good you are on a per play basis". And that is fine, but we don't judge teams on how good they are in an average play. We judge them on winning games and who they win those games against.
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:33 pm to skrayper
quote:We don't either.
#8 Texas - I don't have words. Seriously.
Either this is the most talented team ever wasted by a coach, or no team has ever gotten this much benefit of the doubt from losing by 1 to mighty Alabama.
This Texas team is, at best, fringe top 20
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:35 pm to skrayper
All I can say is garbage in, garbage out. Alabama had some close losses to good teams sure, but they also had some sketchy wins.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:37 pm to NaturalStateReb
Oklahoma at #18 being 5-5 is damning for sure.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:45 pm to skrayper
It's not a 'ranking'. It's basically a tool to predict vegas lines, and it's really, really good at it. As a few have noted here, Bama would be favored on a neutral site right now against all but a handful of teams. He explains all of this in the top of the article every week. Bill Connelly has forgotten more about evaluating college football teams than anyone on this board will ever know.
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