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Is the Bama NIL collective in bad shape?
Posted on 5/3/24 at 6:26 am
Posted on 5/3/24 at 6:26 am
Not panicking but I’m concerned when we have guys in the portal canceling visiting us to go to places like Ole Miss.
Then I remember reading an article last year a 4 star recruit’s parents reportedly telling Kevin Steele, “Coach, we love Bama but you guys aren’t in the same ball park in terms of NIL money as these other schools.”.
I hope that’s not true but what if it is? What if we’re now on par with Georgia Tech or South Carolina in terms of NIL money?
Before anyone loses it, I think it’s a pretty legit question.
Then I remember reading an article last year a 4 star recruit’s parents reportedly telling Kevin Steele, “Coach, we love Bama but you guys aren’t in the same ball park in terms of NIL money as these other schools.”.
I hope that’s not true but what if it is? What if we’re now on par with Georgia Tech or South Carolina in terms of NIL money?
Before anyone loses it, I think it’s a pretty legit question.
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 6:56 am to Amarillo Tide
We have a new unproven coach in the SEC, following the greatest coach and run in CFB history. How about we see what he does until we think we’re dropping to USCe and Tech levels.
I’m optimistic…. and I was on campus for Mike Price and Shula, I know embarrassment and losses. At the of the day… we’re still not Auburn.
I’m optimistic…. and I was on campus for Mike Price and Shula, I know embarrassment and losses. At the of the day… we’re still not Auburn.
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 6:57 am
Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:41 am to Amarillo Tide
Our NIL isn’t where we need it to be, that’s not a great mystery. Saban made up for it for awhile because guys wanted to play for him, that also created some complacency in building our NIL program. That’s being corrected but it doesn’t happen overnight.
We also are not Georgia Tech. Come on.
We also are not Georgia Tech. Come on.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:01 am to bigpapamac
I see where these other schools are using the “protests” on campus and starting Go Fund Me donations going towards NIL. Think one school(OM or UNC) was up to 400k . We need to get creative for sure
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:27 am to Amarillo Tide
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I hope that’s not true but what if it is? What if we’re now on par with Georgia Tech or South Carolina in terms of NIL money?
No, our NIL is not on par with South Carolina or Georgia Tech. Stop letting rantards gaslight you, you dope!
You gotta accept that every year there will be one or two programs that will be ponying up frick You money at prospects because some donors were sold that this team is championship quality with your considerable investment. When it doesn't happen, the money dries up. If it does happen, the donor probably isn't going to deplete their kid's trust fund to field a football team on a yearly basis. Regardless, it won't happen forever.
Alabama's big money donors don't feel that pressure and they aren't throwing good money at bad like Aggy in 2022 and Bux and Piss in 2024.
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 9:29 am
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:24 am to Diego Ricardo
Im done with college football and sports for that reason. NIL is the death blow of college sports. I was all for kids getting compensation, but not being bought.
Saban, the greatest football coach of all time, walked away because of this bs.
Saban, the greatest football coach of all time, walked away because of this bs.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 12:54 pm to Amarillo Tide
Everyone worried about NiL…are you helping? We have a far reaching and national fan base. Everyone sign up for the collective. Lowest tier is $18 a month. You spend more than that on one trip to Wendy’s.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 2:51 pm to Sandkhan
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are you helping?
Call me crazy, but hell no. And I never will. I just spent $18 on. Murder, She Wrote cookbook. I’d rather set it on fire than give $18 a month to pay an 18 year old to come play at Bama. Sorry but not really sorry.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:16 pm to dirtsandwich
Ok but that’s what I’m saying. We complain about if our NiL is up to par. Probably not. We’re not hungry anymore. We just came off 6 titles. We feel entitled.
How much joy does Alabama athletics bring you? How much time do you spend on the message boards? Or money spent on Alabama hats and shirts? Pride you feel from your team winning?
And I’m not saying you’re wrong for how you feel. But I am saying that’s where the gap is about to be closed. We feel like we deserve it and would rather spend money on a cookbook. There’s fans out there that are dying just to see one championship.
I feel invested in the team and want to be a part of why we win but I won’t tell you you’re wrong for not feeling that way. I’ll just tell you that’ll be why we backslide.
How much joy does Alabama athletics bring you? How much time do you spend on the message boards? Or money spent on Alabama hats and shirts? Pride you feel from your team winning?
And I’m not saying you’re wrong for how you feel. But I am saying that’s where the gap is about to be closed. We feel like we deserve it and would rather spend money on a cookbook. There’s fans out there that are dying just to see one championship.
I feel invested in the team and want to be a part of why we win but I won’t tell you you’re wrong for not feeling that way. I’ll just tell you that’ll be why we backslide.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:22 pm to Amarillo Tide
We are in good shape. We don’t have the most but we aren’t poor by any means. I’ve been part of a few campaigns.
You have to remember you have to be incredibly strategic about how much you burn on new recruits and retaining your current team. We found out really fast that if you don’t have a sustainable/bonus fund the kids will leave.
You have to remember you have to be incredibly strategic about how much you burn on new recruits and retaining your current team. We found out really fast that if you don’t have a sustainable/bonus fund the kids will leave.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:35 pm to Sandkhan
All fair points to be honest. And maybe I’d feel differently if we hadn’t won a title since 92 (what a freaking year that was!). But if the difference between winning and losing is people like me writing checks, I think we are in trouble.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:51 pm to dirtsandwich
It still comes down to coaching I believe. The boosters and NIL coffers can buy the top talent, but if you don’t have the right head coach and staff to get theses players to buy in to winning championships it’s not going to matter.
A&M found that out and the best they could do is 8-4.
A&M found that out and the best they could do is 8-4.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 4:05 pm to dirtsandwich
I def understand. It’s a brave new world of college athletics. I will say on the fundraising point…on things like campaigns and whatnot it is very grassroots it’s like voting where if every person feels like “but my little effort won’t make a difference” all that little bit adds up. I mean you see politically even Trump Jr is on Twitter begging the MAGA folks for $5.
We don’t have one single big fish like fatass Yellafella or a T Boone, so where we excel is in the numbers of people who call themselves Alabama fans.
And I’m by no means wealthy but I’m blessed enough to be doing better than what I came from. And I think back to if it was 1999 and I could’ve bought Shaun Alexander or Fernando Bryant dinner legally as a thanks for being bad asses, I definitely would’ve. So it’s kind of cool that we can now. Outside of my family and very close friends I’ve definitely gotten more joy out of Alabama football and basketball than any other thing I regularly pay attention to so I see it as a cool way I can be a part of keeping that success going.
We don’t have one single big fish like fatass Yellafella or a T Boone, so where we excel is in the numbers of people who call themselves Alabama fans.
And I’m by no means wealthy but I’m blessed enough to be doing better than what I came from. And I think back to if it was 1999 and I could’ve bought Shaun Alexander or Fernando Bryant dinner legally as a thanks for being bad asses, I definitely would’ve. So it’s kind of cool that we can now. Outside of my family and very close friends I’ve definitely gotten more joy out of Alabama football and basketball than any other thing I regularly pay attention to so I see it as a cool way I can be a part of keeping that success going.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 4:37 pm to Sandkhan
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I think back to if it was 1999 and I could’ve bought Shaun Alexander or Fernando Bryant dinner legally as a thanks for being bad asses, I definitely would’ve. So it’s kind of cool that we can now.
I don’t think about it like that. Maybe I should.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 5:58 pm to dirtsandwich
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Lowest tier is $18 a month. You spend more than that on one trip to Wendy’s.
There’s no way in hell I would ever waste $18 a month so some entitled college kid could come play football or basketball at Alabama.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:08 pm to Allthatfades
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There’s no way in hell I would ever waste $18 a month so some entitled college kid could come play football or basketball at Alabama.
Then why spend thousands of hours of your life watching, thinking, and posting about it?
Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:11 pm to Sandkhan
Average college football game is 3-4 hours. Times about 14 a year. I don’t know how old you are so let’s say you’ve been watching Alabama football for 20 years.
That’s about 980 hours. If you make $8 an hour that’s about 8 grand. Go take a 2nd job on Saturdays instead of watching “entitled” kids
That’s about 980 hours. If you make $8 an hour that’s about 8 grand. Go take a 2nd job on Saturdays instead of watching “entitled” kids
Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:29 pm to Sandkhan
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We don’t have one single big fish like fatass Yellafella or a T Boone, so where we excel is in the numbers of people who call themselves Alabama fans.
We are the preeminent law school in the state and one of the better public law schools in the South. We may not have many big name billionaires or near-billionaires but we do not lack for high-earners and wealthy alumni off the successful lawyers alone. Yet lawyers aren't the only successful alumni we produce.
I think people fret a bit too much about NIL. You're going to lose some battle because someone is throwing stupid money at college athletes or high school seniors. That is just the new normal.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:06 pm to Sandkhan
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And I think back to if it was 1999 and I could’ve bought Shaun Alexander or Fernando Bryant dinner legally as a thanks for being bad asses, I definitely would’ve.
Great news, you definitely could've bought Fernando dinner legally in 1999
training table at Burke was pretty hard to top most nights, mainly via sheer quantity. 
Posted on 5/4/24 at 12:24 am to Sandkhan
I don’t plan on ever donating to an NIL fund, it’s not my job to compensate players. In two years time NIL collectives will be rather moot with revenue sharing anyway
I’ve been around a handful of high end boosters for a former PAC school. One was giving the players free truck leases, the other that had about 100X his wealth said “screw that, it’s just entertainment for me” and had no intention to donate. At the end of the day you can scrounge most of the NIL from a handful of the big money guys so I’m not too concerned on that front but you should never assume everyone is donating
If the Universities want to go a compensation for play route, they have the legal avenue to begin such a thing. Otherwise I think it’s disingenuous for a multi billion dollar university to scrounge scraps off lower and middle income individuals so RB #7 can drag race in a Dodge Charger
I’ve been around a handful of high end boosters for a former PAC school. One was giving the players free truck leases, the other that had about 100X his wealth said “screw that, it’s just entertainment for me” and had no intention to donate. At the end of the day you can scrounge most of the NIL from a handful of the big money guys so I’m not too concerned on that front but you should never assume everyone is donating
If the Universities want to go a compensation for play route, they have the legal avenue to begin such a thing. Otherwise I think it’s disingenuous for a multi billion dollar university to scrounge scraps off lower and middle income individuals so RB #7 can drag race in a Dodge Charger
This post was edited on 5/4/24 at 12:33 am
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